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> "Here are the reasons the Russians did it. It's different, because they're evil" No. The OP was talking about generally thinking that the Russians are evil a

> "Here are the reasons the Russians did it. It's different, because they're evil" No. The OP was talking about generally thinking that the Russians are evil and the US is great. Whereas the comment you're replying to gave specific malicious things that happened in the Russian case and didn't in the US case. The difference between the way people acted in the two cases is clear and doesn't require any particular political persuation to understand.

locallost 3y ago
actually I agree with itsoktocry. You assume all those things to be facts, but nobody discussing here was personally present in any of those events. I can assure you that the version of "Russians knew it was a civilian airplane" is not recognized as true in Russia. This even without being able to speak Russian, nor ever being in Russia. But of course, they are bad people :-).
- peppermint_gum 3y ago
  Indeed, if you ignore all the evidence, including the declassified Russian documents[1], you can conclude that Russia did nothing wrong with regard to the KE007 flight. To be honest, the persistent blind contrarianism of this community is really tiring. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007#Soviet_memoranda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007#So...
  - locallost 3y ago
    I didn't say they didn't do anything wrong, it's really not about that. The comment was on the coverage of the incident that happened in 1983. Nobody in 1983 knew anything about what will be declassified in 1992. You're stuck in a good vs bad box which is what my comment was actually about.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    > To be honest, the persistent blind contrarianism of this community is really tiring. s/this community/a small faction that is very active on this community/ It's not a lot of them but they are really doing overtime.

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> "Here are the reasons the Russians did it. It's different, because they're evil" No. The OP was talking about generally thinking that the Russians are evil a

by quietbritishjim 3y ago

locallost 3y ago
actually I agree with itsoktocry. You assume all those things to be facts, but nobody discussing here was personally present in any of those events. I can assure you that the version of "Russians knew it was a civilian airplane" is not recognized as true in Russia. This even without being able to speak Russian, nor ever being in Russia. But of course, they are bad people :-).
- peppermint_gum 3y ago
  Indeed, if you ignore all the evidence, including the declassified Russian documents[1], you can conclude that Russia did nothing wrong with regard to the KE007 flight. To be honest, the persistent blind contrarianism of this community is really tiring. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007#Soviet_memoranda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007#So...
  - locallost 3y ago
    I didn't say they didn't do anything wrong, it's really not about that. The comment was on the coverage of the incident that happened in 1983. Nobody in 1983 knew anything about what will be declassified in 1992. You're stuck in a good vs bad box which is what my comment was actually about.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    > To be honest, the persistent blind contrarianism of this community is really tiring. s/this community/a small faction that is very active on this community/ It's not a lot of them but they are really doing overtime.