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War is rarely about morals. But if they did drop them, we would be talking about casualties 20-30 times higher. This isn't about morals, since that would deman

War is rarely about morals. But if they did drop them, we would be talking about casualties 20-30 times higher. This isn't about morals, since that would demand that every death is one too many. Killing just as many Palestinians as Jews were killed would be a fundamentally unmoral justification as well. I think there is different expectation towards Israel, every country would have reacted to an attack like it happend to it and I don't see an alternative to topple the regime in Gaza. The blockade of essentials is questionable, if done for an extended time. The previous blockade of goods wasn't though, it was requested by the PA and Egypt as well. Arguably it wasn't thorough enough.

mardifoufs 3y ago
That's funny because to me, there's so much more leniency towards Israel. Blockading an entire city for almost two decades, and controlling almost every external aspect of its life while also openly and proudly colonizing the west bank with 0 repercussions is something only Israel can get away with. Bombing a city into rubbles with 0 official international condemnation from the west is also a thing only Israel can do.
- vdqtp3 3y ago
  > Bombing a city into rubbles with 0 official international condemnation from the west is also a thing only Israel can do. There's plenty to criticize Israel for, but this isn't one of them. If Tijuana started sending terrorists over the border to San Diego, Mexico elected members of a known terrorist organization to public office and started a campaign to kick the US out of California "from the colorado to the sea?" and staged an attack on civilians the US would suddenly have a couple more territories and LockMart Grumman Atomics stock would skyrocket. The same applies for any other neighbor.
  - immibis 3y ago
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  - mardifoufs 3y ago
    I think if Tijuana was under military and civilian blockade for 2 decades, with a nominal "autonomy" that involves anything but actually allowing any meaningful development (a port, electricity etc), and with the American navy openly attacking and murdering anyone who tries to help (like with the flotilla attack)... even Americans would probably not be surprised if said city wouldn't be super peaceful. And even America would've been condemned by Europe or something for even doing all of those things I listed above. Especially if the US was already promoting and military enforcing colonization of more peaceful mexican territory around Tijuana lol
- raxxorraxor 3y ago
  Israel withdrew from Gaza and a requirement was a blockade of weapons and material that could be weaponized. That was also demanded by the PA and Egypt for obvious reasons.
immibis 3y ago
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mardifoufs 3y ago

That's funny because to me, there's so much more leniency towards Israel. Blockading an entire city for almost two decades, and controlling almost every external aspect of its life while also openly and proudly colonizing the west bank with 0 repercussions is something only Israel can get away with. Bombing a city into rubbles with 0 official international condemnation from the west is also a thing only Israel can do.

vdqtp3 3y ago
> Bombing a city into rubbles with 0 official international condemnation from the west is also a thing only Israel can do. There's plenty to criticize Israel for, but this isn't one of them. If Tijuana started sending terrorists over the border to San Diego, Mexico elected members of a known terrorist organization to public office and started a campaign to kick the US out of California "from the colorado to the sea?" and staged an attack on civilians the US would suddenly have a couple more territories and LockMart Grumman Atomics stock would skyrocket. The same applies for any other neighbor.
- immibis 3y ago
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- mardifoufs 3y ago
  I think if Tijuana was under military and civilian blockade for 2 decades, with a nominal "autonomy" that involves anything but actually allowing any meaningful development (a port, electricity etc), and with the American navy openly attacking and murdering anyone who tries to help (like with the flotilla attack)... even Americans would probably not be surprised if said city wouldn't be super peaceful. And even America would've been condemned by Europe or something for even doing all of those things I listed above. Especially if the US was already promoting and military enforcing colonization of more peaceful mexican territory around Tijuana lol
raxxorraxor 3y ago
Israel withdrew from Gaza and a requirement was a blockade of weapons and material that could be weaponized. That was also demanded by the PA and Egypt for obvious reasons.

immibis 3y ago

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