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And what do you think the reaction of Americans would be if that happened? And especially if those warships were prepared to shoot?

School-Cotton 3y ago
It would be a minor news article that most people would not care about, just like when China/Russia sail near US territory in the Pacific (which actually does happen).
switch007 3y ago
American foreign policy is fully subscribed to the idea of American exceptionalism, as are many of their citizens and media outlets. Hypocrisy means nothing to them and won’t shame them in to not doing something
t0mas88 3y ago
This happens all the time. There is a documentary for example on the HMS Elizabeth carrier from the UK and how they deliberately navigated through Crimea waters (together with the Dutch navy) to make a point that they're allowed to do so because that water is Ukrainian and not Russian. In the same documentary you also see Chinese ships follow around the British group, and Russian jets overflying it. All in international waters, all legal, both not appreciated by the UK side of things.
- Tangurena2 3y ago
  The Montreux Convention[0] prohibits large warships from transiting the Bosporous Strait. That carrier displaces 65,000 tons, the upper limit of the treaty only permits warships of 15,000 tons or less. The UK is one of the signatories to that treaty. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_... 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft_carrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft...
  - metabagel 3y ago
    It was actually the HMS Defender, a destroyer, which sailed into the Black Sea, and the Royal Netherlands Navy’s HNLMS Evertsen, a frigate.
  - t0mas88 3y ago
    Ah yes, it were two ships part of the Queen Elizabeth strike group, but not the carrier itself. The command was given by the admiral that was on board the Elizabeth. Now that you write that it makes sense why they would send only two ships and not move the group around there.

School-Cotton 3y ago

It would be a minor news article that most people would not care about, just like when China/Russia sail near US territory in the Pacific (which actually does happen).

switch007 3y ago

American foreign policy is fully subscribed to the idea of American exceptionalism, as are many of their citizens and media outlets. Hypocrisy means nothing to them and won’t shame them in to not doing something

t0mas88 3y ago

This happens all the time. There is a documentary for example on the HMS Elizabeth carrier from the UK and how they deliberately navigated through Crimea waters (together with the Dutch navy) to make a point that they're allowed to do so because that water is Ukrainian and not Russian. In the same documentary you also see Chinese ships follow around the British group, and Russian jets overflying it. All in international waters, all legal, both not appreciated by the UK side of things.

Tangurena2 3y ago
The Montreux Convention[0] prohibits large warships from transiting the Bosporous Strait. That carrier displaces 65,000 tons, the upper limit of the treaty only permits warships of 15,000 tons or less. The UK is one of the signatories to that treaty. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_... 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft_carrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft...
- metabagel 3y ago
  It was actually the HMS Defender, a destroyer, which sailed into the Black Sea, and the Royal Netherlands Navy’s HNLMS Evertsen, a frigate.
- t0mas88 3y ago
  Ah yes, it were two ships part of the Queen Elizabeth strike group, but not the carrier itself. The command was given by the admiral that was on board the Elizabeth. Now that you write that it makes sense why they would send only two ships and not move the group around there.