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> Same with unions, instead of starting one to fix a dystopian company There is immense value in the company structures themself. You can't just bail and take

> Same with unions, instead of starting one to fix a dystopian company There is immense value in the company structures themself. You can't just bail and take them with you. The inertia of the customer base for example. It has to be really bad to not be worth fixing if the alternative is redo from the ground up. Some fields have less moat though.

vasco 3y ago
> The inertia of the customer base for example. It has to be really bad to not be worth fixing if the alternative is redo from the ground up. This only matters from the pov of the company. From the pov of society those customers will move faster or slower to better competitors, which is what you want. Though you don't even need to have them have to figure it out from one day to the next, you could for example go to your best competitor ask them for money to buy your customer base, and use that money to pay your creditors, employees etc in the bankrupting process.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Building companies takes resources. Just bailing if the executives go mad is probably not optimal either. You can somewhat keep executives or shareholders in check and protect them from each other by being difficult. Just as long as not both are bad, or at least only temporary bad. But with job hoping being incentived I guess it is futile? There are so much BS I blame on the concept of job hoping engineers. Companies can't even make bags for spaghetti nowadays that are openable by hand since there are a constant churn of newbie plastic pasta bags engineers around at them.
- thfuran 3y ago
  >This only matters from the pov of the company. From the pov of society those customers will move faster or slower to better competitors It absolutely matters to customers. Depending on the type of business, it could be extremely inconvenient to have to change to a different one when they close.

vasco 3y ago

> The inertia of the customer base for example. It has to be really bad to not be worth fixing if the alternative is redo from the ground up. This only matters from the pov of the company. From the pov of society those customers will move faster or slower to better competitors, which is what you want. Though you don't even need to have them have to figure it out from one day to the next, you could for example go to your best competitor ask them for money to buy your customer base, and use that money to pay your creditors, employees etc in the bankrupting process.

rightbyte 3y ago
Building companies takes resources. Just bailing if the executives go mad is probably not optimal either. You can somewhat keep executives or shareholders in check and protect them from each other by being difficult. Just as long as not both are bad, or at least only temporary bad. But with job hoping being incentived I guess it is futile? There are so much BS I blame on the concept of job hoping engineers. Companies can't even make bags for spaghetti nowadays that are openable by hand since there are a constant churn of newbie plastic pasta bags engineers around at them.
thfuran 3y ago
>This only matters from the pov of the company. From the pov of society those customers will move faster or slower to better competitors It absolutely matters to customers. Depending on the type of business, it could be extremely inconvenient to have to change to a different one when they close.