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The more Elon talks about something you know about, the more you realise he's not a tech genius, far from it, but he is a powerful momentum guy. By that I mean

by altacc 3y ago

The more Elon talks about something you know about, the more you realise he's not a tech genius, far from it, but he is a powerful momentum guy. By that I mean that he seems to have a compulsive need to constantly push himself and his companies forward as aggressively as possible, regardless of methods & outcome. That's definitely a skillset that CEOs need but I'd never want to be anywhere near Elon's version of it. Other CEOs manage to do the same without causing the same level of damage that Elon leaves in his wake.

concordDance 3y ago
Which other CEOs have managed to move as fast as Tesla and SpaceX in a hardware space without similar amounts of damage (presumably in the burnout sense)?
- altacc 3y ago
  This assumes that I think being fast is by itself a worthy competition, which I don't, plus fails to provide a definition of speed. There are plenty of companies with phenomenal growth that we've never heard of because they don't make headlines. Even in the automotive market there are companies that are experiencing big growth and stealing market share from Tesla quicker than Tesla built that market. Yes they were first but that's no guarantee of long term success. Picking from the dataset of companies you can think of is something that Musk's marketing strategy relies on as it's what we do when comparing companies for buying cars, buying stock or talking about.
  - concordDance 3y ago
    You said other CEOs could do the same (the aggressive pushing) without the damage. I assumed you had an example or two in mind.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  Tesla and SpaceX are infamous in the industry for burning their folks out. I personally know several.
  - iancmceachern 3y ago
    A recent episode of The Verge's podcast titled "Land of the Giants: "The Tesla Shock Wave" uncovered how Tesla's work culture led to many problems for the employees like extremely long hours, unsafe working conditions, harassment, scandals, fines, lawsuits, and even the slightest of mistake could lead to termination." Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/companies/news/extesla-employee-reveals-shocking-details-on-worker-conditions-you-get-fired-on-the-spot-because-elon-was/amp-11692584214325.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/companies/news...

by altacc 3y ago

concordDance 3y ago

Which other CEOs have managed to move as fast as Tesla and SpaceX in a hardware space without similar amounts of damage (presumably in the burnout sense)?

altacc 3y ago
This assumes that I think being fast is by itself a worthy competition, which I don't, plus fails to provide a definition of speed. There are plenty of companies with phenomenal growth that we've never heard of because they don't make headlines. Even in the automotive market there are companies that are experiencing big growth and stealing market share from Tesla quicker than Tesla built that market. Yes they were first but that's no guarantee of long term success. Picking from the dataset of companies you can think of is something that Musk's marketing strategy relies on as it's what we do when comparing companies for buying cars, buying stock or talking about.
- concordDance 3y ago
  You said other CEOs could do the same (the aggressive pushing) without the damage. I assumed you had an example or two in mind.
iancmceachern 3y ago
Tesla and SpaceX are infamous in the industry for burning their folks out. I personally know several.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  A recent episode of The Verge's podcast titled "Land of the Giants: "The Tesla Shock Wave" uncovered how Tesla's work culture led to many problems for the employees like extremely long hours, unsafe working conditions, harassment, scandals, fines, lawsuits, and even the slightest of mistake could lead to termination." Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/companies/news/extesla-employee-reveals-shocking-details-on-worker-conditions-you-get-fired-on-the-spot-because-elon-was/amp-11692584214325.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/companies/news...