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I want to throw another perspective here. I had a friend on a voice call earlier this month. He lives in California, which in theory has very strong gun control

I want to throw another perspective here. I had a friend on a voice call earlier this month. He lives in California, which in theory has very strong gun control laws. While on call, his house alarm goes off, so he grabs his shotgun out of the safe and goes to find out what is happening. We, on the call, waiting for him to come back, heard three distinct gunshots. Turns out some guy, high on some substance was trying to break into the house, and opened fire when our friend showed up at the door. This is to my limited understanding, a "strong gun control" state. So from our perspective, it looks like you must have a gun to be safe; that the law does not help. And this is after California banned body armour, which he was complaining about.

nitwit005 3y ago
There is no state in the US that has strong gun control laws. It ranges from weak to basically unregulated.
- throwawa14223 3y ago
  There is not a state in the US that has lax gun control laws. It ranges from nanny state to fascist jackboots.
  - NickC25 3y ago
    Used to live in AZ during my undergrad days. I could buy a gun in cash on the spot from a gun show with no background check. I know several people that did just that in the wake of a shooting happen a few minutes off our campus, where a Federal senator got shot in the face. Lots of people thought 44 was going to take the guns away so they purchased en-masse. Nothing happened. I currently live in Florida. Where I am, if you've got a clean background, it's very easy to buy a handgun or shotgun.
  - nitwit005 3y ago
    So all the countries where normal people aren't allowed to own guns are somehow ultra fascist super nanny states in your mind? Perhaps you have a strange sense of what's normal.
  - alistairSH 3y ago
    I can buy a gun from my neighbor without any paperwork or fees in most of the US. How does they qualify as “nanny state”?
    - briHass 3y ago
      'Most' is a stretch here. The majority of the populous states have restrictions on gun transfers, usually requiring a Federally licensed individual to facilitate the transfer with a Federal background check.
      - alistairSH 3y ago
        27 states require no background check. Several others (PA for example) split on type of fire-arm (long-guns = no check, handguns = check required, or similar). Several others put the onus of coordinating through an FFL on the seller, the buyer just has to show up (though that does end up requiring a background check). So, I'll stand by "most" (though it's admittedly fewer states than I thought - I would have guessed ~35 had no limits).
    - throwawa14223 3y ago
      You can buy a subset of guns without any paperwork or fees. You will still find the NFA firearms require a lot of money and hoops.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  How are New York's gun control laws "weak"? (Or DC for that matter.)
smegger001 3y ago
Also I would rather be shot at than have hand grenade throw at me like their having problems with in Sweden https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-new-normal-bomb-attacks-suburbs-kristersson-elections-2024/ https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-new-normal-bomb-attac...

nitwit005 3y ago

There is no state in the US that has strong gun control laws. It ranges from weak to basically unregulated.

throwawa14223 3y ago
There is not a state in the US that has lax gun control laws. It ranges from nanny state to fascist jackboots.
- NickC25 3y ago
  Used to live in AZ during my undergrad days. I could buy a gun in cash on the spot from a gun show with no background check. I know several people that did just that in the wake of a shooting happen a few minutes off our campus, where a Federal senator got shot in the face. Lots of people thought 44 was going to take the guns away so they purchased en-masse. Nothing happened. I currently live in Florida. Where I am, if you've got a clean background, it's very easy to buy a handgun or shotgun.
- nitwit005 3y ago
  So all the countries where normal people aren't allowed to own guns are somehow ultra fascist super nanny states in your mind? Perhaps you have a strange sense of what's normal.
- alistairSH 3y ago
  I can buy a gun from my neighbor without any paperwork or fees in most of the US. How does they qualify as “nanny state”?
  - briHass 3y ago
    'Most' is a stretch here. The majority of the populous states have restrictions on gun transfers, usually requiring a Federally licensed individual to facilitate the transfer with a Federal background check.
    - alistairSH 3y ago
      27 states require no background check. Several others (PA for example) split on type of fire-arm (long-guns = no check, handguns = check required, or similar). Several others put the onus of coordinating through an FFL on the seller, the buyer just has to show up (though that does end up requiring a background check). So, I'll stand by "most" (though it's admittedly fewer states than I thought - I would have guessed ~35 had no limits).
  - throwawa14223 3y ago
    You can buy a subset of guns without any paperwork or fees. You will still find the NFA firearms require a lot of money and hoops.
paulddraper 3y ago
How are New York's gun control laws "weak"? (Or DC for that matter.)

smegger001 3y ago

Also I would rather be shot at than have hand grenade throw at me like their having problems with in Sweden https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-new-normal-bomb-attacks-suburbs-kristersson-elections-2024/ https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-new-normal-bomb-attac...