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It seems the focus of these articles are dead children in Gaza. You don't see raw footage and photos of the dead children in Israel unless you go looking for it

It seems the focus of these articles are dead children in Gaza. You don't see raw footage and photos of the dead children in Israel unless you go looking for it. Why is that?

mandmandam 3y ago
It's subtle and powerful propaganda. If showing 'the other' people dying on tv/print/web is generally normal, and showing 'our people' dying is generally tragic, there's a deep suggestion that 'the others' are less worthy of dignity than 'ours'. Though, statistically speaking, one might expect to see a lot more murdered Gazan children, given that so, so many more have been horrifically killed, every year.
23B1 3y ago
The second photo in that article is of an Israeli child's blood-stained bunk bed.
megous 3y ago
Because there are not nearly as many of them. Haaretz documents 12 children under age of 12, incl. as killed during Oct 7. So if you have 12 kids on one side, and thousands on the other, you'll see more footage of Gazan children, assuming no bias in reporting.
- YZF 3y ago
  At least 36 Israeli children killed in Oct 7th: https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/by65800qmt https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/by65800qmt Is there a source for "thousands of Gazan children under the age of 12 dead"? I'm sure many were (killed) but thousands seems on the high side of that estimate. Gaza's population is extremely young so unfortunately civilian casualties will include a lot of children. I'm not sure what "no bias in reporting" can even mean in these situations. The loss of any child is a tragedy. The whole situation is just a tragedy. I'm not sure what the media is trying to do with footage of the dead. Maybe we should start running footage of children killed in car accidents to encourage people to drive more safely? Maybe we should do a few takes to find the best "dead".
  - euzi 3y ago
    6000 children so far, not including those whose bodies are still under the rubble. https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-report-41-situation-gaza-strip-and-west-bank-including-east-Jerusalem https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-repo... > Maybe we should start running footage of children killed in car accidents to encourage people to drive more safely? Yes.
    - megous 3y ago
      Here are the numbers by age of a victim: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/1/know-their-names-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-attacks-on-gaza https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/1/know-their... 133 babies below the age of one 482 toddlers (1-3 years old) 344 preschoolers (4-5 years old) 1,042 primary school children (6-12 years old) Numbers are for 7th-25th October. So ~2 thousands <=12 years of age already more than a month ago.
      - YZF 3y ago
        I'm somewhat dubious of Al Jazeera and Hamas numbers. Neither are exactly objective or reliable sources. But I'm sure the number is high given the dense population and the large proportion of children. Very tragic. I think this will be clearer over time but this conflict will be seen as whatever it was before Oct 7th and after Oct 7th. Not clear where we go from here. On one hand I blame the Palestinians, both in terms of their recent and historical actions, on the other hand we wouldn't be in this situation without Israeli government actions, strategically and tactically, over the last few decades. But then this government is in power because of the Palestinians. There are of course other players that have been working on creating this mess. Most likely we're still going to escalate from here. It's sad but it's hard to see any other way.
    - YZF 3y ago
      I don't think this is going to work with car accidents. We'd all just have PTSD from watching dead children and likely drive even crazier and be more violent.
    - 3y ago
euzi 3y ago
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poisonarena 3y ago
you cant find it even if you look for it, its taboo in jewish culture.. Palestinians have no problem parading dead children, and hamas uses it as a weapon

It seems the focus of these articles are dead children in Gaza. You don't see raw footage and photos of the dead children in Israel unless you go looking for it. Why is that?

mandmandam 3y ago

It's subtle and powerful propaganda. If showing 'the other' people dying on tv/print/web is generally normal, and showing 'our people' dying is generally tragic, there's a deep suggestion that 'the others' are less worthy of dignity than 'ours'. Though, statistically speaking, one might expect to see a lot more murdered Gazan children, given that so, so many more have been horrifically killed, every year.

23B1 3y ago

The second photo in that article is of an Israeli child's blood-stained bunk bed.

megous 3y ago

Because there are not nearly as many of them. Haaretz documents 12 children under age of 12, incl. as killed during Oct 7. So if you have 12 kids on one side, and thousands on the other, you'll see more footage of Gazan children, assuming no bias in reporting.

YZF 3y ago
At least 36 Israeli children killed in Oct 7th: https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/by65800qmt https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/by65800qmt Is there a source for "thousands of Gazan children under the age of 12 dead"? I'm sure many were (killed) but thousands seems on the high side of that estimate. Gaza's population is extremely young so unfortunately civilian casualties will include a lot of children. I'm not sure what "no bias in reporting" can even mean in these situations. The loss of any child is a tragedy. The whole situation is just a tragedy. I'm not sure what the media is trying to do with footage of the dead. Maybe we should start running footage of children killed in car accidents to encourage people to drive more safely? Maybe we should do a few takes to find the best "dead".
- euzi 3y ago
  6000 children so far, not including those whose bodies are still under the rubble. https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-report-41-situation-gaza-strip-and-west-bank-including-east-Jerusalem https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-repo... > Maybe we should start running footage of children killed in car accidents to encourage people to drive more safely? Yes.
  - megous 3y ago
    Here are the numbers by age of a victim: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/1/know-their-names-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-attacks-on-gaza https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/1/know-their... 133 babies below the age of one 482 toddlers (1-3 years old) 344 preschoolers (4-5 years old) 1,042 primary school children (6-12 years old) Numbers are for 7th-25th October. So ~2 thousands <=12 years of age already more than a month ago.
    - YZF 3y ago
      I'm somewhat dubious of Al Jazeera and Hamas numbers. Neither are exactly objective or reliable sources. But I'm sure the number is high given the dense population and the large proportion of children. Very tragic. I think this will be clearer over time but this conflict will be seen as whatever it was before Oct 7th and after Oct 7th. Not clear where we go from here. On one hand I blame the Palestinians, both in terms of their recent and historical actions, on the other hand we wouldn't be in this situation without Israeli government actions, strategically and tactically, over the last few decades. But then this government is in power because of the Palestinians. There are of course other players that have been working on creating this mess. Most likely we're still going to escalate from here. It's sad but it's hard to see any other way.
  - YZF 3y ago
    I don't think this is going to work with car accidents. We'd all just have PTSD from watching dead children and likely drive even crazier and be more violent.
  - 3y ago

euzi 3y ago

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poisonarena 3y ago

you cant find it even if you look for it, its taboo in jewish culture.. Palestinians have no problem parading dead children, and hamas uses it as a weapon