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"The past six weeks have made it clear that the world will respond to images of slaughtered children, and it’s worth asking why it’s taken this long for people

"The past six weeks have made it clear that the world will respond to images of slaughtered children, and it’s worth asking why it’s taken this long for people to see what that looks like. " Well, despite hundreds of thousands of children being killed in Syria and Yemen wars and currently in Sudan, the question never came up. Why? Because Israelis defending themselves and in this war, Hamas uses Palestinian children as human shields. No one likes Jews who hit back, they wish only to pity them.

seagullz 3y ago
In the case of butchering Palestinians, unlike the others, key elements are US murder weapons (material assistance) and Vetos at UN SC to shield from international consequences. An US newspaper has naturally extra newsworthiness in that. No less than they had with “collateral murder” video (cf. Wikileaks).
- myth_drannon 3y ago
  So the core issue is the US support/weapons, not the death of children? Why then the children that are dying in Yemen are ignored? This is US weapons and US support of Saudi Arabia. But I somewhat agree with you. There is a huge disinformation campaign to stop US supporting Israel. Iran/Russia and the rest are working extra hard to isolate Israel and then to be completely overrun by its enemies around. It's similar to the same campaign Russia was spreading to stop NATO involvement in Ukraine-Russia war.
  - seagullz 3y ago
    You are responsible for your own actions (or the predictable consequences thereof) — that’s the basic rule at play here. Any normal court would deem providing murder weapons to the murderer and shielding the murderer from the law an offense. US taxpayers are privy to knowing what they are sponsoring with their tax dollars. The newspapers are supposed to be part of that process.
- ashirusnw 3y ago
  The UN SC votes are merely levelling out an entirely disproportionate UN SC focus of Israeli-Palestinian conflict whilst largely ignoring all the rest of middle East conflict that he mentions. And it's US weapons used all over the globe in bloody conflicts.(others here have already put paid to the myth of Israeli dependence on usa military aid as a proportion of Israeli military spending.)
  - seagullz 3y ago
    When Iraq occupied Kuwait, all out assault was launched within months. Israel continues to occupy lands for decades and brazenly keeps committing land theft in addition to mowing the lawn on a regular basis in violation of the international laws. US obediently keeps shielding it from the law with the UN Security Council vetos. Something very disproproportionate there indeed. Even this Israeli newspaper is amused at this history of slavery on the part of the US govt.: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-17/ty-article/.premium/when-will-the-u-s-get-tired-of-helping-israel-with-un-vetoes/00000186-5fa9-d22b-ad9e-7febfdc60000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-17/ty-article/.p... And US violates its own law in donating this huge pile of murder weapons to this occupying party: Section 502B(a)(2) (22 U.S.C. 2304(a)(2)) stipulates that "no security assistance may be provided to any country the government of which engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights." https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11197.pdf https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11197.pdf B'tSalem/HRW/Amnesty have voluminous records of the said violations.
l3mure 3y ago
> Since the beginning of the occupation in 1967, Israeli security forces have repeatedly used Palestinians in the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip as human shields, ordering them to perform military tasks that risked their lives. As part of this policy, soldiers have ordered Palestinian civilians to remove suspicious objects from roads, to tell people to come out of their homes so the military can arrest them, to stand in front of soldiers while the latter shoot from behind them, and more. The Palestinian civilians were chosen at random for these tasks, and could not refuse the demand placed on them by armed soldiers. https://www.btselem.org/human_shields https://www.btselem.org/human_shields
megous 3y ago
> Well, despite hundreds of thousands of children being killed in Syria and Yemen wars and currently in Sudan, the question never came up. Why? This fake rhetorical caring about "children being killed in Syria and Yemen wars and currently in Sudan" just do drum up argument for killing of Palestinian children is kinda distasteful.
- myth_drannon 3y ago
  What's distasteful is the fake caring about Palestinian children that all those "Cease Fire" and "Free Palestine" scream. Suddenly they care about children... When you see them openly engage in disinformation, spreading fake propaganda, and calling for violence you know they are there for totally different intentions than caring about the children. These people make me sick, that such evil even exists among humans. They always existed (unfortunately) but seeing so many on the street is scary. I admit that I was never bothered too much and tried to avoid all the news about ISIS atrocities, Taliban, Syria, Turks killing Kurds. But now I see the same people coming out on our streets and realize they were here too, just hiding.
  - megous 3y ago
    I don't care about what some imagined "They" you just made up, do or don't do.

seagullz 3y ago

In the case of butchering Palestinians, unlike the others, key elements are US murder weapons (material assistance) and Vetos at UN SC to shield from international consequences. An US newspaper has naturally extra newsworthiness in that. No less than they had with “collateral murder” video (cf. Wikileaks).

myth_drannon 3y ago
So the core issue is the US support/weapons, not the death of children? Why then the children that are dying in Yemen are ignored? This is US weapons and US support of Saudi Arabia. But I somewhat agree with you. There is a huge disinformation campaign to stop US supporting Israel. Iran/Russia and the rest are working extra hard to isolate Israel and then to be completely overrun by its enemies around. It's similar to the same campaign Russia was spreading to stop NATO involvement in Ukraine-Russia war.
- seagullz 3y ago
  You are responsible for your own actions (or the predictable consequences thereof) — that’s the basic rule at play here. Any normal court would deem providing murder weapons to the murderer and shielding the murderer from the law an offense. US taxpayers are privy to knowing what they are sponsoring with their tax dollars. The newspapers are supposed to be part of that process.
ashirusnw 3y ago
The UN SC votes are merely levelling out an entirely disproportionate UN SC focus of Israeli-Palestinian conflict whilst largely ignoring all the rest of middle East conflict that he mentions. And it's US weapons used all over the globe in bloody conflicts.(others here have already put paid to the myth of Israeli dependence on usa military aid as a proportion of Israeli military spending.)
- seagullz 3y ago
  When Iraq occupied Kuwait, all out assault was launched within months. Israel continues to occupy lands for decades and brazenly keeps committing land theft in addition to mowing the lawn on a regular basis in violation of the international laws. US obediently keeps shielding it from the law with the UN Security Council vetos. Something very disproproportionate there indeed. Even this Israeli newspaper is amused at this history of slavery on the part of the US govt.: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-17/ty-article/.premium/when-will-the-u-s-get-tired-of-helping-israel-with-un-vetoes/00000186-5fa9-d22b-ad9e-7febfdc60000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-02-17/ty-article/.p... And US violates its own law in donating this huge pile of murder weapons to this occupying party: Section 502B(a)(2) (22 U.S.C. 2304(a)(2)) stipulates that "no security assistance may be provided to any country the government of which engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights." https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11197.pdf https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11197.pdf B'tSalem/HRW/Amnesty have voluminous records of the said violations.

l3mure 3y ago

> Since the beginning of the occupation in 1967, Israeli security forces have repeatedly used Palestinians in the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip as human shields, ordering them to perform military tasks that risked their lives. As part of this policy, soldiers have ordered Palestinian civilians to remove suspicious objects from roads, to tell people to come out of their homes so the military can arrest them, to stand in front of soldiers while the latter shoot from behind them, and more. The Palestinian civilians were chosen at random for these tasks, and could not refuse the demand placed on them by armed soldiers. https://www.btselem.org/human_shields https://www.btselem.org/human_shields

megous 3y ago

> Well, despite hundreds of thousands of children being killed in Syria and Yemen wars and currently in Sudan, the question never came up. Why? This fake rhetorical caring about "children being killed in Syria and Yemen wars and currently in Sudan" just do drum up argument for killing of Palestinian children is kinda distasteful.

myth_drannon 3y ago
What's distasteful is the fake caring about Palestinian children that all those "Cease Fire" and "Free Palestine" scream. Suddenly they care about children... When you see them openly engage in disinformation, spreading fake propaganda, and calling for violence you know they are there for totally different intentions than caring about the children. These people make me sick, that such evil even exists among humans. They always existed (unfortunately) but seeing so many on the street is scary. I admit that I was never bothered too much and tried to avoid all the news about ISIS atrocities, Taliban, Syria, Turks killing Kurds. But now I see the same people coming out on our streets and realize they were here too, just hiding.
- megous 3y ago
  I don't care about what some imagined "They" you just made up, do or don't do.