> is just confused and born out of perusing popular-scientific materials instead of relying on scientific literature or hands-on experience. I suspect there's

> is just confused and born out of perusing popular-scientific materials instead of relying on scientific literature or hands-on experience. I suspect there's some fundamental metaphysical framework protection in play here, the sort of language being used is pretty common, I believe it to be a learned cultural behavior (from consuming similar arguments).