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If you can't downvote away people's karma, how do you make people who suck go away?

far33d 19y ago
You should downmod the comments, not the person. What's happening here is that troll decides he doesn't like startupgeek, so troll goes to the threads page for startupgeek and downmods every single comment on there. If you think someone sucks, then downmod the sucky thing they said. Not all the non-sucky things.
- menloparkbum 19y ago
  I guess downmodding people doesn't really do anything, anyway. I still have to see all the future stuff they write. It would be cool if there was some way I could nuke people, so I wouldn't have to see posts or comments submitted by people like juwo, tracksuitceo, or one of guy kawasaki's sock puppets.
  - pq 19y ago
    Play nice.
    - eposts 19y ago
      You missed PQ.
  - palish 19y ago
    It's better to discriminate comments instead of people.
- pg 19y ago
  Right. There is no such thing as downvoting someone's karma. What you vote upon (unless you abuse the system) are individual comments and submissions. Karma is an overall score, not something you edit at will.
pg 19y ago
Often it's behaviors that suck, not people. If you dislike something someone has said, the best way to deal with that is to reply explaining why. That's more work than just downmodding them, but it can pay off in the long term if you can turn someone into a useful contributor to the site instead of just making them leave.
- far33d 19y ago
  Which is, I imagine, exactly why you can't downmod replies to your own comments.
- menloparkbum 19y ago
  I applaud your ability to maintain an optimistic viewpoint about humans even though all evidence points the opposite direction. What you're suggesting is completely unprecedented on the internet. What always happens is that an open forum is eventually overwhelmed by trolls and morons, and all the smart people give up. There has never been a case where a troll or a moron turned into a useful contributor because of thoughtful response from a good member of a forum. Just review the history of Digg, Slashdot, Reddit and almost any other open forum, all the way back to ancient USENET times... Wasn't this forum created partially because reddit was overwhelmed by the hordes and all the interesting startup information was lost in the noise?
  - palish 19y ago
    You'll very much enjoy reading http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html But no, it was created primarily as a test for Arc. The fact that it's so beneficial and awesome is a wonderful side effect.
    - far33d 19y ago
      Well, sort of true: http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html Yes, because of reddit. Yes, because of Arc. But mostly because it's a good way to learn about people.
    - 19y ago

You should downmod the comments, not the person. What's happening here is that troll decides he doesn't like startupgeek, so troll goes to the threads page for startupgeek and downmods every single comment on there. If you think someone sucks, then downmod the sucky thing they said. Not all the non-sucky things.

menloparkbum 19y ago
I guess downmodding people doesn't really do anything, anyway. I still have to see all the future stuff they write. It would be cool if there was some way I could nuke people, so I wouldn't have to see posts or comments submitted by people like juwo, tracksuitceo, or one of guy kawasaki's sock puppets.
- pq 19y ago
  Play nice.
  - eposts 19y ago
    You missed PQ.
- palish 19y ago
  It's better to discriminate comments instead of people.
pg 19y ago
Right. There is no such thing as downvoting someone's karma. What you vote upon (unless you abuse the system) are individual comments and submissions. Karma is an overall score, not something you edit at will.

pg 19y ago

Often it's behaviors that suck, not people. If you dislike something someone has said, the best way to deal with that is to reply explaining why. That's more work than just downmodding them, but it can pay off in the long term if you can turn someone into a useful contributor to the site instead of just making them leave.

far33d 19y ago
Which is, I imagine, exactly why you can't downmod replies to your own comments.
menloparkbum 19y ago
I applaud your ability to maintain an optimistic viewpoint about humans even though all evidence points the opposite direction. What you're suggesting is completely unprecedented on the internet. What always happens is that an open forum is eventually overwhelmed by trolls and morons, and all the smart people give up. There has never been a case where a troll or a moron turned into a useful contributor because of thoughtful response from a good member of a forum. Just review the history of Digg, Slashdot, Reddit and almost any other open forum, all the way back to ancient USENET times... Wasn't this forum created partially because reddit was overwhelmed by the hordes and all the interesting startup information was lost in the noise?
- palish 19y ago
  You'll very much enjoy reading http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html But no, it was created primarily as a test for Arc. The fact that it's so beneficial and awesome is a wonderful side effect.
  - far33d 19y ago
    Well, sort of true: http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html Yes, because of reddit. Yes, because of Arc. But mostly because it's a good way to learn about people.
  - 19y ago