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At first I thought, this is a reboot of the carnegy mellon CMapTools app. I may have butchered some or all names here, sorry:) That tool had some downsides, but

by riidom 3y ago

At first I thought, this is a reboot of the carnegy mellon CMapTools app. I may have butchered some or all names here, sorry:) That tool had some downsides, but the UX when actually creating a concept map is unmatched, imo. You can do everything with a single mouse button and keyboard for actually labeling your nodes. Not sure if its still available, but there should be some videos on the big video platform about it.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
this I guess https://cmap.ihmc.us/ https://cmap.ihmc.us/ also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CmapTools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CmapTools Never used such things, it looks pretty lame, can you recommend I learn it? What do I get out of it? Thanks
- riidom 3y ago
  You are correct, that's it! And no,I wouldn't learn it nowadays. It's more like a blast from the past. If you mean the general appearance with "looks pretty lame", yea well it's old. Grey was trendy once and afair it is a java app:) Also, not to mix things up: This is a concept mapping tool. Which means, nodes, edges, labels, with no enforced structure. Unlike mind maps (what cmaps.io seems to be), which have a tree structure.
  - gxara 3y ago
    Unexpectedly, you have played a key role in refining the character and presentation of cmaps. The project was originally designed for note-taking, it features a tree/graph structure to link notes and concepts. Although it now serves well as a mind mapping tool, this wasn't its primary intended function. I will work to enhance the clarity of the website.
    - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
      By 'lame' I meant in terms of I couldn't see what it was supposed to do or how it was supposed to bring value. Certainly not criticising the superficial aspect of it, I couldn't care less about appearance. What I'm saying is, how does it benefit me? If it's basically just a graph with informational nodes at the end, what do I do with that? I can vaguely imagine that if you set it up right you could kind of quiz it like a database or something, but I don't know if it supports that or similar. Essentially I'm clueless, if you could point me to part of the website that sells the idea to me, that would be really good.
      - riidom 3y ago
        Sure, can give it a try. I can think of two usecases, research and creativity. In research (not scientific research necessarily), you can fight the "I don't know what I don't know" problem. For example, all the subcategories of math, write them down as nodes as you discover them, connect with edges when they are related somehow. Put a label to the edge, if necessary. The nice thing (imo) compared to mind maps is the freeform factor. You can have orphan nodes sitting on the edge, the edges don't need to be directed, you can have cycles. In creative manners, you can for example have elements of a story, characters, places, events, and connect them as you see fit. Being so freeform, you don't get distracted by being forced to classify (as in, define the position inside the tree structure). Note down open questions, contradictions as orphan nodes in the vicinity.

by riidom 3y ago

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

this I guess https://cmap.ihmc.us/ https://cmap.ihmc.us/ also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CmapTools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CmapTools Never used such things, it looks pretty lame, can you recommend I learn it? What do I get out of it? Thanks

riidom 3y ago
You are correct, that's it! And no,I wouldn't learn it nowadays. It's more like a blast from the past. If you mean the general appearance with "looks pretty lame", yea well it's old. Grey was trendy once and afair it is a java app:) Also, not to mix things up: This is a concept mapping tool. Which means, nodes, edges, labels, with no enforced structure. Unlike mind maps (what cmaps.io seems to be), which have a tree structure.
- gxara 3y ago
  Unexpectedly, you have played a key role in refining the character and presentation of cmaps. The project was originally designed for note-taking, it features a tree/graph structure to link notes and concepts. Although it now serves well as a mind mapping tool, this wasn't its primary intended function. I will work to enhance the clarity of the website.
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    By 'lame' I meant in terms of I couldn't see what it was supposed to do or how it was supposed to bring value. Certainly not criticising the superficial aspect of it, I couldn't care less about appearance. What I'm saying is, how does it benefit me? If it's basically just a graph with informational nodes at the end, what do I do with that? I can vaguely imagine that if you set it up right you could kind of quiz it like a database or something, but I don't know if it supports that or similar. Essentially I'm clueless, if you could point me to part of the website that sells the idea to me, that would be really good.
    - riidom 3y ago
      Sure, can give it a try. I can think of two usecases, research and creativity. In research (not scientific research necessarily), you can fight the "I don't know what I don't know" problem. For example, all the subcategories of math, write them down as nodes as you discover them, connect with edges when they are related somehow. Put a label to the edge, if necessary. The nice thing (imo) compared to mind maps is the freeform factor. You can have orphan nodes sitting on the edge, the edges don't need to be directed, you can have cycles. In creative manners, you can for example have elements of a story, characters, places, events, and connect them as you see fit. Being so freeform, you don't get distracted by being forced to classify (as in, define the position inside the tree structure). Note down open questions, contradictions as orphan nodes in the vicinity.