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Climate Summit: As in a bunch of 1%er billionaires fly their private jets to eat expensive food and drink lavishly while figuring out how to lecture everyone el

Climate Summit: As in a bunch of 1%er billionaires fly their private jets to eat expensive food and drink lavishly while figuring out how to lecture everyone else about climate change?

Hammershaft 3y ago
I mean if international leaders meeting in person achieves even minute national changes in longterm climate policy then that private jet ride will have paid itself off many times over.
- nroets 3y ago
  Then they should lead by example and buy carbon offsets from a reputable source. AFAIK, Bill Gates is the only 1% er who does this.
  - thorncorona 3y ago
    Carbon offsets are largely bullshit financialized products.
- zbyte64 3y ago
  Woah there, let's calm down a second. There is no need to advocate for the profitability and ethics in kidnapping private jets with billionaires on board. I'm sure if we just vote then we won't need violent revolution to avoid billions of people being displaced from climate change.
  - crawfordcomeaux 3y ago
    Tried that. It got us here. It's plane-snatching time.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  Do they... all I see is evidence of more oil lobby entering the room. Oil lobby will never ever lobby for them losing long term profits, so be always extremely wary of their activities, I mean its not quantum physics rather just trivial 'follow the money' approach. What I often see even with smaller national oil refineries are more in style of 'we lose this tiny battle and sell it 100x over via massive PR campaigns, while quietly pushing through this nefarious additional oil something something'. Political leaders don't care, they get their cut of the pie now and next election cycle is up in the stars anyway and desperately hope they and their offsprings will have one of top positions in future world. Peasants be damned. Now with these simple facts cleared, what heart-warming message do they have for the plebs?
zbyte64 3y ago
Arguably they already figured out how to lecture us: "We can't scale back extraction so we might as well go for geo-engineering." Though they are probably still working out how to balance scare tactics with learned helplessness.
VoodooJuJu 3y ago
It's pretty disturbing too that these billionaires are enjoying a growing base of support for these kinds of actions, private jets for he but not for thee: >There's nothing wrong with socialist leaders taking bigger slices of pie because of the good they do for the movement [1] >You want meat to be a thing only rich people can afford? And you justify this by saying you want to help the poor? [2] I'm not sure if their constituents are just useful [3] or if they think their master will toss them some crumbs from the table. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/s2g90b/why_are_socialists_so_wealthy/hsf5ohb/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/s2g90... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37053096 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37053096 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

Climate Summit: As in a bunch of 1%er billionaires fly their private jets to eat expensive food and drink lavishly while figuring out how to lecture everyone else about climate change?

Hammershaft 3y ago

I mean if international leaders meeting in person achieves even minute national changes in longterm climate policy then that private jet ride will have paid itself off many times over.

nroets 3y ago
Then they should lead by example and buy carbon offsets from a reputable source. AFAIK, Bill Gates is the only 1% er who does this.
- thorncorona 3y ago
  Carbon offsets are largely bullshit financialized products.
zbyte64 3y ago
Woah there, let's calm down a second. There is no need to advocate for the profitability and ethics in kidnapping private jets with billionaires on board. I'm sure if we just vote then we won't need violent revolution to avoid billions of people being displaced from climate change.
- crawfordcomeaux 3y ago
  Tried that. It got us here. It's plane-snatching time.
saiya-jin 3y ago
Do they... all I see is evidence of more oil lobby entering the room. Oil lobby will never ever lobby for them losing long term profits, so be always extremely wary of their activities, I mean its not quantum physics rather just trivial 'follow the money' approach. What I often see even with smaller national oil refineries are more in style of 'we lose this tiny battle and sell it 100x over via massive PR campaigns, while quietly pushing through this nefarious additional oil something something'. Political leaders don't care, they get their cut of the pie now and next election cycle is up in the stars anyway and desperately hope they and their offsprings will have one of top positions in future world. Peasants be damned. Now with these simple facts cleared, what heart-warming message do they have for the plebs?

zbyte64 3y ago

Arguably they already figured out how to lecture us: "We can't scale back extraction so we might as well go for geo-engineering." Though they are probably still working out how to balance scare tactics with learned helplessness.

VoodooJuJu 3y ago

It's pretty disturbing too that these billionaires are enjoying a growing base of support for these kinds of actions, private jets for he but not for thee: >There's nothing wrong with socialist leaders taking bigger slices of pie because of the good they do for the movement [1] >You want meat to be a thing only rich people can afford? And you justify this by saying you want to help the poor? [2] I'm not sure if their constituents are just useful [3] or if they think their master will toss them some crumbs from the table. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/s2g90b/why_are_socialists_so_wealthy/hsf5ohb/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/s2g90... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37053096 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37053096 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot