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You questions are bizarre. Of course judges and police should be able to strike. Usually critical areas like law, health, will not strike completely but have so
by tokai 3y ago
You questions are bizarre. Of course judges and police should be able to strike. Usually critical areas like law, health, will not strike completely but have some employees keep working on critical tasks.
There is no arbitrariness in this, its fantasy of yours. There are common agreements between workers associations and employers, often different by profession. If these are not upheld by the parties involved, several tools of labor struggle are legal to be used, like striking an sympathy strikes. There is a legal and contractual frame underpinning all of this, which can also be challenged as tesla is doing. All this what-about-personal-boycotts is pie in the sky fearmongering to be honest.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoI dont see the distinction that you are drawing, and I'm not talking about a general or partial strike. I am talking about a targeted strike. >All this what-about-personal-boycotts is pie in the sky fearmongering to be honest. I didn't stay anything about it being arbitrary/personal. Do you really think that Judges should be able to boycott hearing cases from organizations or companies?
- Hikikomori 3y agoHypotheticals are irrelevant. Sweden has had this system for 75 years.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago>Hypotheticals are irrelevant. You don't get to decide what I think is relevant. I dont think the current system in Sweden is relevant to the question of if tokai think Judges should be able to boycott cases. The fact that the current system has existed for 75 years doesn't even mean anything about the postnord case (which hasnt been decided) or if the Swedish government is required to ensure equal accesses to government services or law.
- Hikikomori 3y agoWe can make up hypotheticals to make anything look bad all day, doesn't make them likely to happen. A track record of 75 years with nothing like those hypotheticals says something. There's no discrimination happening here as Tesla is not a protected group that is covered by this. The right to strike is a fundamental right enshrined in Swedens constitution. The government is very hands off when it comes to labour disputes. PostNord is a government owned private company, their employees are not working for the state.
- Jensson 3y ago> A track record of 75 years with nothing like those hypotheticals says something. The postal service hasn't had a private operator for long, so this situation wasn't possible until recently.
- Hikikomori 3y agoWell we have precedent on this before it was a private operator, presumably it easier now that they're not even state employees. In the 90s we had a similar situation with Toys R Us and the SEKO union which Posten employees were part of joined the sympathy strike and stopped delivering mail to them. Edit: Seems like Posten became a company the same year. So during that strike they may not have been state employees. Still a precedent though.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoThat's all beside the point. What do you think tokai's position on judge strikes is? Do you have a position on Judge strikes? OR are you trying to talk about something else?
- Hikikomori 3y agoSome government and municipal employees have stricter rules when it comes to strikes. Others like doctors and police cannot strike in a way that creates a danger in society. Dont know if that would apply to judges. But strikes are against a company or the state when there is a labour dispute, not against individuals or for political reasons. So his hypothetical does not apply.