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Private "The owners of PostNord Group are the state of Sweden (60 percent) and the state of Denmark (40 percent)." It was a merger between the two countries p

Private "The owners of PostNord Group are the state of Sweden (60 percent) and the state of Denmark (40 percent)." It was a merger between the two countries postal services that were created over 300 years ago, it still has no private shareholders. It is still very closely tied to government rulings and laws around postal services.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> still very closely tied to government rulings and laws around postal services Sure. But you can't sue Fannie Mae for denying you guarantees under the equal protection clause.
- gabeaweg 3y ago
  Is there a law saying that Fannie Mae is the only company that can do X? Because that's the case with postnord: only they can handle these plates, by law.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > Is there a law saying that Fannie Mae is the only company that can do X? Guarantee mortgages with the implicit backing of the U.S.? Yes. There are loads of other examples of NGOs being granted limited monopolies. The NFL is a famous example. The MPAA and NCMEC others.
  - mrmanner 3y ago
    That’s not exactly the case though - the court in the other Tesla case, against the government, has ordered the agency registering vehicles to ensure Tesla can pick up their plates directly from the manufacturer: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreringsskyltar-ska-lamnas-ut--lsx0rk https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...
- Jensson 3y ago
  But there are laws around post packages similar to the US common carrier laws, you can't just reject packages due to not liking the sender or recipient. Every country has such laws around important services.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > there are laws around post packages similar to the US common carrier laws, you can't just reject packages due to not liking the sender or recipient. Every country has such laws around important services. Yes! Sweden has laws around labour disputes. Again, these are deeply precedented. Even the experience of American companies being caught pants down in their respect is precedented.
    - Jensson 3y ago
      > Yes! Sweden has laws around labour disputes But these things haven't been pitted against each other in court. The state has to provide these services according to law, but workers can strike according to law. So what happens when these two things oppose each other? That is what these lawsuits are supposed to figure out. So it makes perfect sense to sue in this case. Clearing these things up is a really good thing.
      - Hikikomori 3y ago
        I don't know if it ended up in court but Posten employees/Seko sympathy striked against toys r us in the 90s.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  But if Fannie Mae is unable or unwilling to perform the governmental functions it is contracted for, the government must find a new contractor who will, yes? Unless the law specifically enshrines the privilege of one named private party above others? Any of that make sense?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> still very closely tied to government rulings and laws around postal services Sure. But you can't sue Fannie Mae for denying you guarantees under the equal protection clause.

gabeaweg 3y ago
Is there a law saying that Fannie Mae is the only company that can do X? Because that's the case with postnord: only they can handle these plates, by law.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > Is there a law saying that Fannie Mae is the only company that can do X? Guarantee mortgages with the implicit backing of the U.S.? Yes. There are loads of other examples of NGOs being granted limited monopolies. The NFL is a famous example. The MPAA and NCMEC others.
- mrmanner 3y ago
  That’s not exactly the case though - the court in the other Tesla case, against the government, has ordered the agency registering vehicles to ensure Tesla can pick up their plates directly from the manufacturer: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreringsskyltar-ska-lamnas-ut--lsx0rk https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/domstol-teslas-registreri...
Jensson 3y ago
But there are laws around post packages similar to the US common carrier laws, you can't just reject packages due to not liking the sender or recipient. Every country has such laws around important services.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > there are laws around post packages similar to the US common carrier laws, you can't just reject packages due to not liking the sender or recipient. Every country has such laws around important services. Yes! Sweden has laws around labour disputes. Again, these are deeply precedented. Even the experience of American companies being caught pants down in their respect is precedented.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    > Yes! Sweden has laws around labour disputes But these things haven't been pitted against each other in court. The state has to provide these services according to law, but workers can strike according to law. So what happens when these two things oppose each other? That is what these lawsuits are supposed to figure out. So it makes perfect sense to sue in this case. Clearing these things up is a really good thing.
    - Hikikomori 3y ago
      I don't know if it ended up in court but Posten employees/Seko sympathy striked against toys r us in the 90s.
paulddraper 3y ago
But if Fannie Mae is unable or unwilling to perform the governmental functions it is contracted for, the government must find a new contractor who will, yes? Unless the law specifically enshrines the privilege of one named private party above others? Any of that make sense?