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I'm broadly in favor of organized labor, but it seems very odd to me for a labor action to stop the state-run postal service from delivering to one customer in

I'm broadly in favor of organized labor, but it seems very odd to me for a labor action to stop the state-run postal service from delivering to one customer in particular. The postal workers aren't Tesla employees. In the U.S., at least, government workers can strike against their government employer, but de-facto denying government services to a specific company would be way out of bounds.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> it seems very odd to me for a labor action to stop the state-run postal service from delivering to one customer in particular We're seeing a country, and increasingly the Nordic region, express outrage against Musk. It's manifesting in a Scandinavian way. But were the same conditions ripe in America, we'd see registration delays and special fees, safety investigations and public hearings.
- whats_a_quasar 3y ago
  > were the same conditions ripe in America, we'd see registration delays and special fees, safety investigations and public hearings. I don't think we would. America is a big country, and certainly governments can be obstructionist, particularly state and local governments. But that tends to be through permitting and courts, which makes it more predictable and easier to appeal. USPS doing something like this is inconceivable - reliable delivery of government services is very high priority.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > that tends to be through permitting and courts, which makes it more predictable and easier to appeal Talk to a developer some time. Approvals are opaque and personal and rarely subject to judicial review. I'd prefer that to change. But to argue it's unprecedented or an affront to the rule of law would be ridiculous. > USPS doing something like this is inconceivable PostNord is technically a private company. (It's state owned.) This is more like the MPAA refusing to rate a movie, or giving a film a rating the producer doesn't like.
    - whats_a_quasar 3y ago
      Real estate development is very localized. For sure agree that local governments on the coasts obstruct development, though Texas or Florida don't. My point was more that you implied that the U.S. also selectively blocks certain companies but through other means than labor, and I don't think that's true. PostNord isn't private, it's state-owned by Sweden and Denmark.
      - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
        > Real estate development is very localized Sweden's population is like New York City and LA. This is, practically speaking, a local dispute. > you implied that the U.S. also selectively blocks certain companies but through other means than labor MPAA ratings. Corporate credit ratings. Consumer credit ratings. Fannie Mae.
cma 3y ago
Under Taft-Hartley, secondary strikes are illegal in the US, regardless of if it is government. Same-industry is allowed but not cross industry.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> it seems very odd to me for a labor action to stop the state-run postal service from delivering to one customer in particular We're seeing a country, and increasingly the Nordic region, express outrage against Musk. It's manifesting in a Scandinavian way. But were the same conditions ripe in America, we'd see registration delays and special fees, safety investigations and public hearings.

whats_a_quasar 3y ago
> were the same conditions ripe in America, we'd see registration delays and special fees, safety investigations and public hearings. I don't think we would. America is a big country, and certainly governments can be obstructionist, particularly state and local governments. But that tends to be through permitting and courts, which makes it more predictable and easier to appeal. USPS doing something like this is inconceivable - reliable delivery of government services is very high priority.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > that tends to be through permitting and courts, which makes it more predictable and easier to appeal Talk to a developer some time. Approvals are opaque and personal and rarely subject to judicial review. I'd prefer that to change. But to argue it's unprecedented or an affront to the rule of law would be ridiculous. > USPS doing something like this is inconceivable PostNord is technically a private company. (It's state owned.) This is more like the MPAA refusing to rate a movie, or giving a film a rating the producer doesn't like.
  - whats_a_quasar 3y ago
    Real estate development is very localized. For sure agree that local governments on the coasts obstruct development, though Texas or Florida don't. My point was more that you implied that the U.S. also selectively blocks certain companies but through other means than labor, and I don't think that's true. PostNord isn't private, it's state-owned by Sweden and Denmark.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > Real estate development is very localized Sweden's population is like New York City and LA. This is, practically speaking, a local dispute. > you implied that the U.S. also selectively blocks certain companies but through other means than labor MPAA ratings. Corporate credit ratings. Consumer credit ratings. Fannie Mae.

cma 3y ago

Under Taft-Hartley, secondary strikes are illegal in the US, regardless of if it is government. Same-industry is allowed but not cross industry.