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An Open Letter To Those Not Employed At Instagram

126 points by psycho 14y ago

dkrich 14y ago
So wait, you're saying a business is supposed to make money by selling something? You just blew my mind. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that what you are professing here applies to other businesses that have nothing to do with enterprise software. Or any software for that matter. In fact, I am going to go so far as to suggest that there are only three businesses set up to not make money- social media-related startups, government programs, and charities. If you are not starting a social network/gaming/photo-sharing/location-like thing, this Instagram acquisition story should pass you by like a ship in the night.
- drumdance 14y ago
  You forgot media companies. They don't make money out of the gate either, and often not for several years.
- j_baker 14y ago
  It's worth pointing out that it gets to be just a bit more complex if you're talking about B Corporations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation
losethos 14y ago
Do not covet. God is just. Heaven is God's company. God says... C:\LoseThos\www.losethos.com\text\WEALTH.TXT n, as may lower its price in the home market, much more than the bounty can raise it in the actual state which tillage may, at the end of that period, happen to be in. I answer, that whatever extension of the foreign market can be occasioned by the bounty must, in every particular year, be altogether at the expense of the home market; as every bushel of corn, which is exported by means of the bounty, and which would not have been exported without the bounty, would have remained in the home market
rodly 14y ago
Can we dig up some information on the author? Instagram clearly disowned him somehow.
- stanleydrew 14y ago
  In the amount of time it took you to write this comment you could have typed "Alexander Haislip" into Google and spared all of us having to read it.
  - RegEx 14y ago
    > In the amount of time it took you to write this comment you could have typed "Alexander Haislip" into Google True > and spared all of us having to read it. Unnecessary.
- leovinci 14y ago
  so since you seem to support instawhatever, with your own logic we should assume you're in their payroll.
johnrob 14y ago
I've come to realize that the distinction between enterprise and consumer is trivial. There is one basic rule for all businsses: solve a problem that is important to someone. Wanting your phone's pictures to look better turns out to be a valuable problem for many people. One nice thing about the enterprise space is that there is a tradition of paying for things of value. But instagram's lack of paying users does not imply a lack of value being added. And there's almost always a way to monetize a product that is important to someone. Perhaps a more direct message from this article could have been: "Just because you target consumers doesn't mean you can avoid solving an important problem". Consumer products fail for the same reason enterprise ones do: their products are not important to anyone.
- dkrich 14y ago
  > But instagram's lack of paying users does not imply a lack of value being added. And there's almost always a way to monetize a product that is important to someone. Whoa, hang on a sec there. Do you really believe that is true? If it is, then why couldn't Instagram make money from the app itself? If they could, why didn't they? I'm pretty sure that if I bake cookies and go hand them out, people will take them. Knowing that people will consume my cookies in large quantities if I give them away is a long way from creating a successful, sustainable business out of the popularity of my free cookies. I'm sure my cookies are important to the people to whom I am giving them, but does that mean that I can monetize my free cookies in ways other than charging for the cookies? I doubt it. But let's be honest, that's exactly what we're talking about here- giving away a useful service with the assumption that I can make money by doing something else related to the service in the future. I still don't understand why these economics apply to internet companies and not more traditional companies, but I guess I am just old-fashioned.
  - drumdance 14y ago
    Instagram is a media company. They're only just now reaching a size where their audience is big enough for advertisers to care. It's not just Internet companies that do this - practically all media start out in the red and don't make money for at least a couple of years. CNN, as an old media example, basically gave away advertising for its first several years of existence.
JCB_K 14y ago
Google wasn't first. Facebook wasn't first. They both make their money from consumers, and guess what? They're doing a pretty good job at it. And from the author's viewpoint (Instagram is just "a few filters [...] a few sharing options") Instagram wasn't first either; Hipstamatic was doing the same thing way before them, with a different business model.
gdubs 14y ago
"Instagram’s competitive advantage comes from being first." Actually, Facebook was first. They've been calling themselves the biggest & best photo sharing app for quite some time now; long before Instagram existed. By this Author's logic, Instagram shouldn't have bothered. Being first is good, but being great is better. That was the motivation behind the Mac OS, the iPhone, the iPad, etc, right? None of those things were the first in their categories.
- nostromo 14y ago
  > Actually, Facebook was first. I followed my friends' photos on Flickr when Facebook was still a php website for Harvard grads... This strengthens your point however; first is overrated.
  - moe 14y ago
    I used Altavista when the most famous "Larry" amongst geeks was still called "Leisure Suit Larry".
    - wowoc 14y ago
      Nope, that would be Larry Wall.
      - gonzo 14y ago
        Not Larry Roberts?
  - skrish 14y ago
    Agreed. Like it is said in Immutable laws of Marketing book: If you can't be first with an idea, be the first in a category. If not create the category and be the first in it.
- grepherder 14y ago
  I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't resist adding: being first is good, being great is better, but being lucky is best. After a certain point entrepreneurs have to humble themselves down and accept the fact that sheer luck, or more scientifically, factors that you can't predict or model, play a huge role in the outcome. I'd say most people are overanalyzing this, there's no point in trying to analyze chaos, unless you're literally a theoretical physicist trying to predict an orbit somewhere.
amirmc 14y ago
I honestly can't remember the last time someone cited "first-mover advantage" when talking about startups. I'm genuinely surprised to see it writ here about a photo-sharing app.
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  - amirmc 14y ago
    Of course each app/service/product is unique, which is what you're really getting at (and I agree). However, stretching this to the point where someone attempts to claim that a given app has first-mover advantage for mobile-photo-apps-a-bit-like-polaroids-which-you-can-share-and-add-filters-to-etc-etc seems a little ridiculous. Taken to this extreme, every startup (that is not a direct clone) can arguably have 'first-mover advantage' for their particular set of features.
- rhizome 14y ago
  And not even a mention of Hipstamatic.
grinalds 14y ago
Enterprise sales has its own set of issues which lead to generally a long sales cycle. Corporate inertia, difficulties finding key decision makers, the start-up stigma (no big company wants to be reliant on a start-up that might not be around in a year's time.) These roadblocks make it difficult for enterprise-focused start-ups to diagnose lack of traction. Is it product? Distribution? Market? These issues aren't as pronounced in consumer internet start-ups. The end-user is your target (not some manager who will never use/understand the product), and fortunately around here, users are willing to try most anything. Think of how many apps you have downloaded that you don't use anymore. Start-ups are inherently hard, and each market has its own set of challenges.
leovinci 14y ago
> Instagram’s competitive advantage comes from being first. first in what? first in photo sharing or first in image processing? first in what?
methoddk 14y ago
The author sounds sad. Also: Articles like this is why TC stinks.
liuliu 14y ago
It is nonsense. The Internet is slowly, but firmly diminishing the mysterious enterprise market, not the other way around. It is the same analogy why middleman (brokers) slowly eroded by the same force. I will start from the middleman market. Middlemen are all about information asymmetry. i.e. someone knows something that others don't. The knowledge freedom that the Internet provides largely destroyed the asymmetry (knowledge gap). It is no secret that now you don't need a middleman to "brand" your music/film/video game. Instead, the leverage of social network (Twitter, Facebook, reddit etc.) enable one to market himself directly or at lower cost. That's why currently music/movie industry is under attack from two sides, both the production and the consumption. They can control neither. And this is the death of middleman market. The same analogy can apply to enterprise market. Traditionally, it requires a long cycle to negotiating and shipping product to selected few big corps. At that case, the leverage is "information asymmetry" as well. That's why you cannot find a price quote on IBM's supercomputers, or any enterprise software/hardware. But, it is transforming too. The ubiquitous openness and flatness provided by the Internet making such man-made "information asymmetry" useless. And traditionally "consumer-facing hardware/software can penetrate enterprise market as well. That's why RIM is losing in enterprise market to Apple, and that's why Intuit is taking over accounting software market. P.S. I am considering product for small businesses as consumer-facing product as well since it serves sufficient many customers comparing to traditionally-defined "enterprise market".
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  - gruseom 14y ago
    Don't worry about your English. The downvote was probably because of the "It is nonsense", which is slightly harsher than convention here is willing to tolerate (rightly so, IMO, lest threads turn into shouting matches). Please don't comment about being downvoted. It goes against http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and earns an automatic downvote from many of us. Also, downvoting to express disagreement is common on HN, because one may disagree without having the time and/or anything substantive that is worth posting a comment to say.
ashconnor 14y ago
Articles like this annoy me. I just don't see many developers or startups being dumb enough to think they will actually be bought out by the companies listed (even with a large user base). It's kind of like American Idol or X Factor; yeah there is a small chance of making it big, but most realise that the competition is tough and monetising startups can be very hard. Not like that is anything to worry about when being bought out, so it seems...
- tensor 14y ago
  I think American Idol is a really good analogy. Companies like Instagram and OMGPOP are not technical wonders nor do they have great business plans. Hell, even the ideas of their winning apps are not new. But they won the popularity contest and thus cashed out. They CEOs instantly becoming the tech worlds equivalent of pop stars. There is a more interesting question for investors and observers: Is this trend permanent or is it signalling that we are in another bubble that will one day collapse? If these companies lose their popularity is their value zero? Popularity is a volatile thing to ride billions of dollars on.
- hef19898 14y ago
  It's almost ironic to see start-ups participating in a VC sponsored popularity contest with Google and Facebook being in the jury. Please, don't be rude on me for any irony, I just needed humorical relieve! :-)
snarf 14y ago
This "op-ed" completely ignores the negative aspects of working on enterprise software. Much of the work isn't very interesting to tech/design aficionados since a lot of the problems being solved are more about capturing and making business processes more efficient rather than technology or design challenges. You mostly work with more mature technologies since Fortune 500 CIO types typically have an aversion to the latest cutting edge technology and would rather go with something tried and true. And the marketing and sales (and often times the deployment) of enterprise software is still slow, inefficient, and bloated -- think sales VPs and CIOs on exotic golf outings.
drucken 14y ago
Something mildly condescending and irritatingly simplistic about this article... I understand his loose attempt at the general point about enterprise customer base and enterprise valuation. But great companies exist despite "intellectual property" (another loose term), not because of it, especially in the realm of software - i.e. it simply is not the driving concern for creating either a great enterprise or startup! Think about it... The author also seems to have completely ignored disruptive technologies and applications of them, i.e. it is not about being first for the sake of it - look at Xerox etc.
nanijoe 14y ago
If Instagram is an anecdote , then what are Reddit, OMGPOP, NewToys etc etc? How about 37 signals etc? A billion dollar exit is not the only reason to start a company or work for a startup
- uxp 14y ago
  A billion dollar exit is not the only reason to start a company or work for a startup That's actually what I got from the editorial. A billion dollars shouldn't be your motivation to bootstrap a startup or look to VCs to turn a hobby project into a fledgling company, because 99.5% of the time you'll be disappointed in your constant stream of failure. There are reasons people start companies. If your reason is to get bought out for a billion, you might want to rethink your goals. A billion dollars can happen, and you might want to look forward to it, but in the mean time you'll need to figure out how to get your first 10 customers to fork over some money so you can pay your webhost or landlord in order to fight another month.
excuse-me 14y ago
So did instagram really get $1Bn? Or did the VCs who own Instagram also own Facebook and so just moved some numbers from one cell in a spreadsheet to another - netting themselves huge amounts of publicity before the Facebook IPO (and probably a tax break somewhere)
- gbog 14y ago
  Interesting claim, anything to back it up?
  - excuse-me 14y ago
    Facebook had an income of about $500M last year and $200M the year before - so I doubt they had $1Bn in cash sitting around to pay in used dollar bills. I imagine some sort of IPO/options/notes financial complexity so no actual folding money changed hands
    - verroq 14y ago
      I'm fairly sure some was paid in facebook stock.
      - gonzo 14y ago
        "cash and stock". I'm sure the VCs are all giddy to own a bunch of pre-IPO Facebook shares.
- meric 14y ago
  Good point. The Instagram acquisition is only worth $1b is Facebook stock is $1b.
dromias 14y ago
Good God, another Instagram article?
mstefanko 14y ago
As others said, instagram wasn't the first to do this, and that is certainly not why they were bought out for 1 billion or why so many users adopted the service. Instagram didn't fill a huge gap, they made something people wanted to use. The article misses a couple beats, but I don't think the focus of it is completely misguided. A valuation and a buy out like this does not happen very often, and when it does happen, it draws the wrong kind of attention. All of a sudden a lot of people think they can do the exact same thing, that they can spend some time on the weekend and release a better version of instagram, then BAM money--fame. It's just now how things work. I don't think instagram is completely invulnerable to the market. As a user of it, I'd happily adopt a different service that did the exact same thing better, and I don't think I'm alone. So in that sense, this article misses the mark. But I'd rather read this article than one that tells people they can do it too. It's a once-and-a-lifetime valuation. The service itself may be reproduceable but the results far from it, and in that vein the article speaks the truth. Your time is better spent elsewhere.
wensing 14y ago
The first mover advantage is the way we describe winning products (value propositions) in hindsight. They are almost never, ever temporally first in any regard except the first to bundle together the right set of experiences.
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OoTheNigerian 14y ago
DailyBooth was first to this 'just photos' social network scene. I just don't know what happened to them. Before, I'll say first to execute well wins. But I thought DailyBooth did well. Maybe they did not take mobile as very important?

126 points by psycho 14y ago

So wait, you're saying a business is supposed to make money by selling something? You just blew my mind. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that what you are professing here applies to other businesses that have nothing to do with enterprise software. Or any software for that matter. In fact, I am going to go so far as to suggest that there are only three businesses set up to not make money- social media-related startups, government programs, and charities. If you are not starting a social network/gaming/photo-sharing/location-like thing, this Instagram acquisition story should pass you by like a ship in the night.

drumdance 14y ago
You forgot media companies. They don't make money out of the gate either, and often not for several years.
j_baker 14y ago
It's worth pointing out that it gets to be just a bit more complex if you're talking about B Corporations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation

losethos 14y ago

Do not covet. God is just. Heaven is God's company. God says... C:\LoseThos\www.losethos.com\text\WEALTH.TXT n, as may lower its price in the home market, much more than the bounty can raise it in the actual state which tillage may, at the end of that period, happen to be in. I answer, that whatever extension of the foreign market can be occasioned by the bounty must, in every particular year, be altogether at the expense of the home market; as every bushel of corn, which is exported by means of the bounty, and which would not have been exported without the bounty, would have remained in the home market

rodly 14y ago

Can we dig up some information on the author? Instagram clearly disowned him somehow.

stanleydrew 14y ago
In the amount of time it took you to write this comment you could have typed "Alexander Haislip" into Google and spared all of us having to read it.
- RegEx 14y ago
  > In the amount of time it took you to write this comment you could have typed "Alexander Haislip" into Google True > and spared all of us having to read it. Unnecessary.
leovinci 14y ago
so since you seem to support instawhatever, with your own logic we should assume you're in their payroll.

johnrob 14y ago

I've come to realize that the distinction between enterprise and consumer is trivial. There is one basic rule for all businsses: solve a problem that is important to someone. Wanting your phone's pictures to look better turns out to be a valuable problem for many people. One nice thing about the enterprise space is that there is a tradition of paying for things of value. But instagram's lack of paying users does not imply a lack of value being added. And there's almost always a way to monetize a product that is important to someone. Perhaps a more direct message from this article could have been: "Just because you target consumers doesn't mean you can avoid solving an important problem". Consumer products fail for the same reason enterprise ones do: their products are not important to anyone.

dkrich 14y ago
> But instagram's lack of paying users does not imply a lack of value being added. And there's almost always a way to monetize a product that is important to someone. Whoa, hang on a sec there. Do you really believe that is true? If it is, then why couldn't Instagram make money from the app itself? If they could, why didn't they? I'm pretty sure that if I bake cookies and go hand them out, people will take them. Knowing that people will consume my cookies in large quantities if I give them away is a long way from creating a successful, sustainable business out of the popularity of my free cookies. I'm sure my cookies are important to the people to whom I am giving them, but does that mean that I can monetize my free cookies in ways other than charging for the cookies? I doubt it. But let's be honest, that's exactly what we're talking about here- giving away a useful service with the assumption that I can make money by doing something else related to the service in the future. I still don't understand why these economics apply to internet companies and not more traditional companies, but I guess I am just old-fashioned.
- drumdance 14y ago
  Instagram is a media company. They're only just now reaching a size where their audience is big enough for advertisers to care. It's not just Internet companies that do this - practically all media start out in the red and don't make money for at least a couple of years. CNN, as an old media example, basically gave away advertising for its first several years of existence.

JCB_K 14y ago

Google wasn't first. Facebook wasn't first. They both make their money from consumers, and guess what? They're doing a pretty good job at it. And from the author's viewpoint (Instagram is just "a few filters [...] a few sharing options") Instagram wasn't first either; Hipstamatic was doing the same thing way before them, with a different business model.

gdubs 14y ago

"Instagram’s competitive advantage comes from being first." Actually, Facebook was first. They've been calling themselves the biggest & best photo sharing app for quite some time now; long before Instagram existed. By this Author's logic, Instagram shouldn't have bothered. Being first is good, but being great is better. That was the motivation behind the Mac OS, the iPhone, the iPad, etc, right? None of those things were the first in their categories.

nostromo 14y ago
> Actually, Facebook was first. I followed my friends' photos on Flickr when Facebook was still a php website for Harvard grads... This strengthens your point however; first is overrated.
- moe 14y ago
  I used Altavista when the most famous "Larry" amongst geeks was still called "Leisure Suit Larry".
  - wowoc 14y ago
    Nope, that would be Larry Wall.
    - gonzo 14y ago
      Not Larry Roberts?
- skrish 14y ago
  Agreed. Like it is said in Immutable laws of Marketing book: If you can't be first with an idea, be the first in a category. If not create the category and be the first in it.
grepherder 14y ago
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't resist adding: being first is good, being great is better, but being lucky is best. After a certain point entrepreneurs have to humble themselves down and accept the fact that sheer luck, or more scientifically, factors that you can't predict or model, play a huge role in the outcome. I'd say most people are overanalyzing this, there's no point in trying to analyze chaos, unless you're literally a theoretical physicist trying to predict an orbit somewhere.

amirmc 14y ago

I honestly can't remember the last time someone cited "first-mover advantage" when talking about startups. I'm genuinely surprised to see it writ here about a photo-sharing app.

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- amirmc 14y ago
  Of course each app/service/product is unique, which is what you're really getting at (and I agree). However, stretching this to the point where someone attempts to claim that a given app has first-mover advantage for mobile-photo-apps-a-bit-like-polaroids-which-you-can-share-and-add-filters-to-etc-etc seems a little ridiculous. Taken to this extreme, every startup (that is not a direct clone) can arguably have 'first-mover advantage' for their particular set of features.
rhizome 14y ago
And not even a mention of Hipstamatic.

grinalds 14y ago

Enterprise sales has its own set of issues which lead to generally a long sales cycle. Corporate inertia, difficulties finding key decision makers, the start-up stigma (no big company wants to be reliant on a start-up that might not be around in a year's time.) These roadblocks make it difficult for enterprise-focused start-ups to diagnose lack of traction. Is it product? Distribution? Market? These issues aren't as pronounced in consumer internet start-ups. The end-user is your target (not some manager who will never use/understand the product), and fortunately around here, users are willing to try most anything. Think of how many apps you have downloaded that you don't use anymore. Start-ups are inherently hard, and each market has its own set of challenges.

leovinci 14y ago

> Instagram’s competitive advantage comes from being first. first in what? first in photo sharing or first in image processing? first in what?

methoddk 14y ago

The author sounds sad. Also: Articles like this is why TC stinks.

liuliu 14y ago

It is nonsense. The Internet is slowly, but firmly diminishing the mysterious enterprise market, not the other way around. It is the same analogy why middleman (brokers) slowly eroded by the same force. I will start from the middleman market. Middlemen are all about information asymmetry. i.e. someone knows something that others don't. The knowledge freedom that the Internet provides largely destroyed the asymmetry (knowledge gap). It is no secret that now you don't need a middleman to "brand" your music/film/video game. Instead, the leverage of social network (Twitter, Facebook, reddit etc.) enable one to market himself directly or at lower cost. That's why currently music/movie industry is under attack from two sides, both the production and the consumption. They can control neither. And this is the death of middleman market. The same analogy can apply to enterprise market. Traditionally, it requires a long cycle to negotiating and shipping product to selected few big corps. At that case, the leverage is "information asymmetry" as well. That's why you cannot find a price quote on IBM's supercomputers, or any enterprise software/hardware. But, it is transforming too. The ubiquitous openness and flatness provided by the Internet making such man-made "information asymmetry" useless. And traditionally "consumer-facing hardware/software can penetrate enterprise market as well. That's why RIM is losing in enterprise market to Apple, and that's why Intuit is taking over accounting software market. P.S. I am considering product for small businesses as consumer-facing product as well since it serves sufficient many customers comparing to traditionally-defined "enterprise market".

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- gruseom 14y ago
  Don't worry about your English. The downvote was probably because of the "It is nonsense", which is slightly harsher than convention here is willing to tolerate (rightly so, IMO, lest threads turn into shouting matches). Please don't comment about being downvoted. It goes against http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and earns an automatic downvote from many of us. Also, downvoting to express disagreement is common on HN, because one may disagree without having the time and/or anything substantive that is worth posting a comment to say.

ashconnor 14y ago

Articles like this annoy me. I just don't see many developers or startups being dumb enough to think they will actually be bought out by the companies listed (even with a large user base). It's kind of like American Idol or X Factor; yeah there is a small chance of making it big, but most realise that the competition is tough and monetising startups can be very hard. Not like that is anything to worry about when being bought out, so it seems...

tensor 14y ago
I think American Idol is a really good analogy. Companies like Instagram and OMGPOP are not technical wonders nor do they have great business plans. Hell, even the ideas of their winning apps are not new. But they won the popularity contest and thus cashed out. They CEOs instantly becoming the tech worlds equivalent of pop stars. There is a more interesting question for investors and observers: Is this trend permanent or is it signalling that we are in another bubble that will one day collapse? If these companies lose their popularity is their value zero? Popularity is a volatile thing to ride billions of dollars on.
hef19898 14y ago
It's almost ironic to see start-ups participating in a VC sponsored popularity contest with Google and Facebook being in the jury. Please, don't be rude on me for any irony, I just needed humorical relieve! :-)

snarf 14y ago

This "op-ed" completely ignores the negative aspects of working on enterprise software. Much of the work isn't very interesting to tech/design aficionados since a lot of the problems being solved are more about capturing and making business processes more efficient rather than technology or design challenges. You mostly work with more mature technologies since Fortune 500 CIO types typically have an aversion to the latest cutting edge technology and would rather go with something tried and true. And the marketing and sales (and often times the deployment) of enterprise software is still slow, inefficient, and bloated -- think sales VPs and CIOs on exotic golf outings.

drucken 14y ago

Something mildly condescending and irritatingly simplistic about this article... I understand his loose attempt at the general point about enterprise customer base and enterprise valuation. But great companies exist despite "intellectual property" (another loose term), not because of it, especially in the realm of software - i.e. it simply is not the driving concern for creating either a great enterprise or startup! Think about it... The author also seems to have completely ignored disruptive technologies and applications of them, i.e. it is not about being first for the sake of it - look at Xerox etc.

nanijoe 14y ago

If Instagram is an anecdote , then what are Reddit, OMGPOP, NewToys etc etc? How about 37 signals etc? A billion dollar exit is not the only reason to start a company or work for a startup

uxp 14y ago
A billion dollar exit is not the only reason to start a company or work for a startup That's actually what I got from the editorial. A billion dollars shouldn't be your motivation to bootstrap a startup or look to VCs to turn a hobby project into a fledgling company, because 99.5% of the time you'll be disappointed in your constant stream of failure. There are reasons people start companies. If your reason is to get bought out for a billion, you might want to rethink your goals. A billion dollars can happen, and you might want to look forward to it, but in the mean time you'll need to figure out how to get your first 10 customers to fork over some money so you can pay your webhost or landlord in order to fight another month.

excuse-me 14y ago

So did instagram really get $1Bn? Or did the VCs who own Instagram also own Facebook and so just moved some numbers from one cell in a spreadsheet to another - netting themselves huge amounts of publicity before the Facebook IPO (and probably a tax break somewhere)

gbog 14y ago
Interesting claim, anything to back it up?
- excuse-me 14y ago
  Facebook had an income of about $500M last year and $200M the year before - so I doubt they had $1Bn in cash sitting around to pay in used dollar bills. I imagine some sort of IPO/options/notes financial complexity so no actual folding money changed hands
  - verroq 14y ago
    I'm fairly sure some was paid in facebook stock.
    - gonzo 14y ago
      "cash and stock". I'm sure the VCs are all giddy to own a bunch of pre-IPO Facebook shares.
meric 14y ago
Good point. The Instagram acquisition is only worth $1b is Facebook stock is $1b.

dromias 14y ago

Good God, another Instagram article?

mstefanko 14y ago

As others said, instagram wasn't the first to do this, and that is certainly not why they were bought out for 1 billion or why so many users adopted the service. Instagram didn't fill a huge gap, they made something people wanted to use. The article misses a couple beats, but I don't think the focus of it is completely misguided. A valuation and a buy out like this does not happen very often, and when it does happen, it draws the wrong kind of attention. All of a sudden a lot of people think they can do the exact same thing, that they can spend some time on the weekend and release a better version of instagram, then BAM money--fame. It's just now how things work. I don't think instagram is completely invulnerable to the market. As a user of it, I'd happily adopt a different service that did the exact same thing better, and I don't think I'm alone. So in that sense, this article misses the mark. But I'd rather read this article than one that tells people they can do it too. It's a once-and-a-lifetime valuation. The service itself may be reproduceable but the results far from it, and in that vein the article speaks the truth. Your time is better spent elsewhere.

wensing 14y ago

The first mover advantage is the way we describe winning products (value propositions) in hindsight. They are almost never, ever temporally first in any regard except the first to bundle together the right set of experiences.

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OoTheNigerian 14y ago

DailyBooth was first to this 'just photos' social network scene. I just don't know what happened to them. Before, I'll say first to execute well wins. But I thought DailyBooth did well. Maybe they did not take mobile as very important?