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> Yet the core, foundational issue with this vehicle is that they decided to make it with stainless steel for zero rational reason beyond apparently that Elon w

> Yet the core, foundational issue with this vehicle is that they decided to make it with stainless steel for zero rational reason beyond apparently that Elon was infatuated with the Delorean that was a cool car in his youth. Online opinions don't matter though. The only "issue" that matters is how many Tesla sells and what is the satisfaction of the owners over the long-term. For some reason it seems that the negativity surrounding this vehicle is especially ignorant and critical to something that hasn't even been released yet. The number of super negative words you use like "horrendous", "foundational" "zero rational", "cherry picked", "terrible", "moonshot", "detriments", "fit and finish problems", "curse", "axed", "abhorrent", "pedestrian killing", "complete and utter impracticality" is... how should I put this: literally unbelievable. The vehicle has not even begun to be sold and people are saying things like this. This is not a believable, rational comment. The more people are negative about it leads me to believe that it will be a huge success. I hope commenters like you aren't the legacy automakers trying to slow down the competition for their most profitable segment. > These are "production" units. Really? They are driving around "production" units before they have begun to be delivered? How do you know if "these" are "production" or not?

llm_nerd 3y ago
"Online opinions don't matter though" There is overwhelmingly negative sentiment about this vehicle. I have absolutely no doubt that the True Believers will buy it. Contrarians and attention seekers (e.g. cryptoscammers and MLM sorts are going to have one on their socials in no time) will buy it. That will account for a minuscule number of orders. The "pre-orders" that turn into actual orders will be low single-digit percentages. "This is not a believable, rational comment." Am I a bot? Am I just an Elon-hater? I mean, I do think he's a manchild who seems to be succumbing to some sort of severe brain rot, however my analysis of the vehicle is based upon all of the details we have before us. I mean...you know we can actually see it, right? We can see the pictures of the catastrophic (earned negative words) design and the compromises that entails. We can see the spectacularly impractical vehicle Tesla is pushing out. This is, in every way, The Homer. Actually The Homer had some benefits. "How do you know if "these" are "production" or not?" You have no idea how any of this works. If production was two years out these rather ridiculous excuses could fly. I mean...even then they wouldn't and prototype vehicles are usually especially stellar, for obvious reasons.
bumby 3y ago
>The more people are negative about it leads me to believe that it will be a huge success. Is this a rational statement? What, exactly, is this sentiment based on?

llm_nerd 3y ago

"Online opinions don't matter though" There is overwhelmingly negative sentiment about this vehicle. I have absolutely no doubt that the True Believers will buy it. Contrarians and attention seekers (e.g. cryptoscammers and MLM sorts are going to have one on their socials in no time) will buy it. That will account for a minuscule number of orders. The "pre-orders" that turn into actual orders will be low single-digit percentages. "This is not a believable, rational comment." Am I a bot? Am I just an Elon-hater? I mean, I do think he's a manchild who seems to be succumbing to some sort of severe brain rot, however my analysis of the vehicle is based upon all of the details we have before us. I mean...you know we can actually see it, right? We can see the pictures of the catastrophic (earned negative words) design and the compromises that entails. We can see the spectacularly impractical vehicle Tesla is pushing out. This is, in every way, The Homer. Actually The Homer had some benefits. "How do you know if "these" are "production" or not?" You have no idea how any of this works. If production was two years out these rather ridiculous excuses could fly. I mean...even then they wouldn't and prototype vehicles are usually especially stellar, for obvious reasons.

bumby 3y ago

>The more people are negative about it leads me to believe that it will be a huge success. Is this a rational statement? What, exactly, is this sentiment based on?