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Silly analogy. PFAS are a toxic but useful tool. Programming languages are a useful tool that can be used for good and evil. Every use of PFAS carries its toxic
by jdiff 3y ago
Silly analogy. PFAS are a toxic but useful tool. Programming languages are a useful tool that can be used for good and evil. Every use of PFAS carries its toxicity.
- rowanG077 3y agoThis is not true. PFAS could be limited to industrial use which theoretically can be done safely. In fact there are many toxic chemicals that are safely used everyday with the right precautions.
- jdiff 3y agoSure, there's some hypothetical world out there in the multiverse where it's not true. We live in this one, though, where they were used flippantly despite knowing the risks and where the genie is out of the bottle. PFAS are everywhere and they are not being used with care.
- rowanG077 3y agoI simply disagree with the statement: "this tool is dangerous so we don't use it". We abused PFAS, that doesn't mean it should be banned wholesale. We just need to ensure we safely use it, just like hundreds of other dangerous tools humanity uses every day.
- jdiff 3y agoAnd I simply disagree with the statement "PFAS can be used for both good and evil, don't blame the tool for its use." The tool is dangerous and needs to be used with care. And right now it's not being used with care, and it was sent out into the world with reckless abandon and that should be dealt with so that this story stops repeating.
- rngname22 3y ago[flagged]
- rowanG077 3y agoThat's literally what we do with civilization ending tools like nukes and research diseases.
- refurb 3y agoI suggest you read up on PFAS because that statement is false. Teflon is a PFAS. You know the material used in joint replacement.
- jdiff 3y ago> Increased cholesterol levels > Decreased vaccine response in children > Changes in liver enzymes > Increased risk of high blood pressure or pre-eclampsia in pregnant women > Small decreases in infant birth weights > Increased risk of kidney or testicular cancer https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html And PFAS do not go away, they seep into the environment and continue their impact.
- refurb 3y agoMy comment went right over your head. PFAS is a group of chemicals. Not all of them are harmful.
- jdiff 3y agoTeflon is. Just because it has uses doesn't mean it's not harmful. And PFAS, as a group, are harmful. To date I have not found anything stating otherwise.
- refurb 3y agoHow is a “group” harmful when elements of that group aren’t. Seems silly not to make a distinction. It’s like saying metals are bad because lead is toxic.
- jdiff 3y agoAs I said, I have not found any exceptions to the rule that PFAS are toxic. It's silly to say "hey, not all water is wet" when all the water seen to date has been. You've mentioned one member of the group so far and it's a toxic one.