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They talk about stress-testing of livestreaming towards the end of the article. A quick search shows that they've done several of them for videos as well. The p

They talk about stress-testing of livestreaming towards the end of the article. A quick search shows that they've done several of them for videos as well. The peer-to-peer structure really protects them from sudden scale in demand.

hutzlibu 3y ago
"The peer-to-peer structure really protects them from sudden scale in demand." In theory, for sure. But in reality the p2p part might not work for lots of users for various reasons (firewall etc.) so then the server gets all the load and chokes. At least that has be my experience when experimenting with webRTC. "Last year, thanks to French indie journalist David Dufresne’s Au Poste ! livestream show and his hoster Octopuce, we got a livestream stress test with more than 400 simultaneous viewers " And 400 is not a very big number, if one has ambitious goals. But it is a good start.
- amomo 3y ago
  Indeed it's not a big number, but you don't need to have a lot of viewers to be in the top 1% of twitch : https://twitter.com/zachbussey/status/1367868296473813001 https://twitter.com/zachbussey/status/1367868296473813001 So, what if peertube was a good answer to 99% cases ?
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    Oh, then those people should certainly use peertube. But then personally I would like to have a safe fallback, but this creates overhead.
  - glenstein 3y ago
    Moreover, could we zoom out and ask what's at stake with this kind of question? What does a road map from Peertube in its present day towards twitch or YouTube level adoption look like, how long would that take? I ask because that's the kind of runway where there's time to continue to work out questions like this, and they aren't at present make or break, and so far as I can tell there's no reason to believe issues about firewalls pose an issue that's any more or less difficult than the technical challenges they've already solved.
    - hutzlibu 3y ago
      "there's no reason to believe issues about firewalls pose an issue that's any more or less difficult than the technical challenges they've already solved." Certainly. I am 100% certain that the whole concept is doable.

hutzlibu 3y ago

"The peer-to-peer structure really protects them from sudden scale in demand." In theory, for sure. But in reality the p2p part might not work for lots of users for various reasons (firewall etc.) so then the server gets all the load and chokes. At least that has be my experience when experimenting with webRTC. "Last year, thanks to French indie journalist David Dufresne’s Au Poste ! livestream show and his hoster Octopuce, we got a livestream stress test with more than 400 simultaneous viewers " And 400 is not a very big number, if one has ambitious goals. But it is a good start.

amomo 3y ago
Indeed it's not a big number, but you don't need to have a lot of viewers to be in the top 1% of twitch : https://twitter.com/zachbussey/status/1367868296473813001 https://twitter.com/zachbussey/status/1367868296473813001 So, what if peertube was a good answer to 99% cases ?
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  Oh, then those people should certainly use peertube. But then personally I would like to have a safe fallback, but this creates overhead.
- glenstein 3y ago
  Moreover, could we zoom out and ask what's at stake with this kind of question? What does a road map from Peertube in its present day towards twitch or YouTube level adoption look like, how long would that take? I ask because that's the kind of runway where there's time to continue to work out questions like this, and they aren't at present make or break, and so far as I can tell there's no reason to believe issues about firewalls pose an issue that's any more or less difficult than the technical challenges they've already solved.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    "there's no reason to believe issues about firewalls pose an issue that's any more or less difficult than the technical challenges they've already solved." Certainly. I am 100% certain that the whole concept is doable.