In my experience its very common on HN. Sadly these talking points represent such a large amount of memes that are so entrenched that its akin to talking to fla

In my experience its very common on HN. Sadly these talking points represent such a large amount of memes that are so entrenched that its akin to talking to flat Earthers or sovereign citizens. The Gish gallop is never ending and due its being a strongly politically-identity coupled you can't hardly convince anybody. there isn't a chance of fruitful debate :/