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> jesus overturning the money changers' tables was because they were the equivalent to payday loans Jesus apparently didn't appreciated that a Jew coming from

by chewz 3y ago

> jesus overturning the money changers' tables was because they were the equivalent to payday loans Jesus apparently didn't appreciated that a Jew coming from say Alexandia or Gallile had been bringing a bunch of coins of different origin, issuance, often clipped or destroyed by use... Charging 4-8 percent (kolbon) for exchanging used and foreign coins into new shekels required by Temple wasn't excesive. It is on par on charges for foreign purchases by today's banks. Temple services (purification, healing) were on the other hand prohibitively expensive while Jesus provided them for free...

bluGill 3y ago
Many read that passage as Jesus against doing those activities in the temple, if they had been in the market outside he would have been okay.
- dylan604 3y ago
  The funny thing to me was that Jesus was only like 17 or so when he did this, if memory serves. It always seemed to me like a tantrum thrown by a teenager getting praised for being an asshat. Prior to that, he was a dick to his stepdad by essentially telling him "you're not my real dad". And these were the events canonized, so what other kinds of things were left out that these were the ones that were selected as the high notes?
  - bluGill 3y ago
    He would have been in his 30s by any reading of the bible. (Luke 3 clearly says about 30, and also is clearly the start of his ministry) Historically there were many Jewish people not happy about this happening in the temple. I doubt Jesus was the only one driving them away from time to time, they just kept coming back to the temple. The rest of your post is just made up based on trying your best to interrupt things in the worst possible light it is not more reasonable than believing anything else.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      "Why have you done this to us?" "Why are you looking for me? Do you not know I'm in my father's house?" => "You're not my real dad" It's not made up. It's just modernized. And he was 12 according to NIV
      - bluGill 3y ago
        The subject here is chasing the money changers out of the temple which the NIV also says would have happened after he was 30. There was a short incident where he said things like you said when he was 12, but that is a different situation.

by chewz 3y ago

bluGill 3y ago

Many read that passage as Jesus against doing those activities in the temple, if they had been in the market outside he would have been okay.

dylan604 3y ago
The funny thing to me was that Jesus was only like 17 or so when he did this, if memory serves. It always seemed to me like a tantrum thrown by a teenager getting praised for being an asshat. Prior to that, he was a dick to his stepdad by essentially telling him "you're not my real dad". And these were the events canonized, so what other kinds of things were left out that these were the ones that were selected as the high notes?
- bluGill 3y ago
  He would have been in his 30s by any reading of the bible. (Luke 3 clearly says about 30, and also is clearly the start of his ministry) Historically there were many Jewish people not happy about this happening in the temple. I doubt Jesus was the only one driving them away from time to time, they just kept coming back to the temple. The rest of your post is just made up based on trying your best to interrupt things in the worst possible light it is not more reasonable than believing anything else.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    "Why have you done this to us?" "Why are you looking for me? Do you not know I'm in my father's house?" => "You're not my real dad" It's not made up. It's just modernized. And he was 12 according to NIV
    - bluGill 3y ago
      The subject here is chasing the money changers out of the temple which the NIV also says would have happened after he was 30. There was a short incident where he said things like you said when he was 12, but that is a different situation.