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Food without paying isn’t a right. Privacy without paying is. Apples and oranges.

JacobSeated 3y ago
Apples and oranges. Eh? And yet, while completely rejecting my post so confidently, you somehow managed to miss a central point: We can have targeted ads and privacy, and to an extent we already do, so that is not the issue.
- Kbelicius 3y ago
  > We can have targeted ads and privacy, and to an extent we already do, so that is not the issue. How? Where do we have it?
vinaypai 3y ago
You can get privacy without paying by not using Facebook. Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right.
- Kbelicius 3y ago
  > Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right. By my privacy is so nobody can require me to pay for things with it. What point are you trying to make?
  - vinaypai 3y ago
    I'm saying don't use Facebook. Nobody is forcing you to use Facebook.
    - Kbelicius 3y ago
      That doesn't matter one bit.
- xescure 3y ago
  I’d agree if Facebook wasn’t such a monopoly. Most digital social interactions are walled behind Meta products. You want to organize a protest? Create a Facebook event. You want to keep up with news in your town or neighborhood? Join the local Facebook group. You want to chat with someone? Add them on Facebook Messenger.
- nerdbert 3y ago
  > Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right. That's true. So they can charge everyone and respect everyone's privacy rights, if they think that's the best business model for them. What they're trying to get away with here is trading money for fundamental rights. I can't legally pay Facebook to assassinate me, to take an extreme example.
mfru 3y ago
"The right to food" is in the process of being advocated for. https://www.ohchr.org/en/food https://www.ohchr.org/en/food also interesting, the US and Israel keep voting against establishing a right to food: https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-vote-on-the-right-to-food/ https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-v... https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en

Apples and oranges. Eh? And yet, while completely rejecting my post so confidently, you somehow managed to miss a central point: We can have targeted ads and privacy, and to an extent we already do, so that is not the issue.

Kbelicius 3y ago
> We can have targeted ads and privacy, and to an extent we already do, so that is not the issue. How? Where do we have it?

vinaypai 3y ago

You can get privacy without paying by not using Facebook. Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right.

Kbelicius 3y ago
> Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right. By my privacy is so nobody can require me to pay for things with it. What point are you trying to make?
- vinaypai 3y ago
  I'm saying don't use Facebook. Nobody is forcing you to use Facebook.
  - Kbelicius 3y ago
    That doesn't matter one bit.
xescure 3y ago
I’d agree if Facebook wasn’t such a monopoly. Most digital social interactions are walled behind Meta products. You want to organize a protest? Create a Facebook event. You want to keep up with news in your town or neighborhood? Join the local Facebook group. You want to chat with someone? Add them on Facebook Messenger.
nerdbert 3y ago
> Getting someone to host your pictures and provide you a platform to share them isn't a fundamental right. That's true. So they can charge everyone and respect everyone's privacy rights, if they think that's the best business model for them. What they're trying to get away with here is trading money for fundamental rights. I can't legally pay Facebook to assassinate me, to take an extreme example.

mfru 3y ago

"The right to food" is in the process of being advocated for. https://www.ohchr.org/en/food https://www.ohchr.org/en/food also interesting, the US and Israel keep voting against establishing a right to food: https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-vote-on-the-right-to-food/ https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-v... https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en