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> what’s the damn point To churn out proletariats who will be happy and replaceable little cogs in the capitalist machine. No, for real, schools follow the sa

> what’s the damn point To churn out proletariats who will be happy and replaceable little cogs in the capitalist machine. No, for real, schools follow the same damn paradigm established in the Industrial Revolution. They have no interest in deepening your understanding and you can see that in the people hired to teach.

zlg_codes 3y ago
You are correct, but it's sad that education isn't about knowledge. We're forced by market conditions to seek money more than knowledge. I've developed quite a cynical view of the world, with each new truth that's revealed about our society and the nature of people, my faith and trust lowers. But is it really cynical if, everywhere you look, you find evidence of its truth? Rhetorical question but I think about it daily.
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  You can very much make education about knowledge, god knows i have always been thirsty for knowledge, but that’s the adhd in me seeking novelty. I think that the broader society doesn’t encourage those who seek knowledge for the sake of knowledge, the know-it-alls, it doesn’t promote curiosity because curious minds question everything and leave no stone untouched, you don’t want that, you dont want people questioning your authority or capacity to rule metaphorical kingdoms. But I don’t think this view implies something sinister either. I think it just shows how much trauma we carry through from our upbringing. I don’t think the average person wakes up and chooses some form of punishment for others. I think ultimately we are all just trying to live some decent lives, and part of that includes avoiding confrontation with our shortcomings because that’s a difficult thing to do, especially if you are not used to.
  - oceanplexian 3y ago
    The world needs ditch diggers as much as it needs PhD’s. We can come up with fictional stories about how robots or AI will magically do everything, but in the real world you need people to dig holes. Training people to follow instructions is a necessary kind of education. You can already see problems forming as a result of how education has changed in the last few years. Lots of people who can code but a massive shortage of anyone who can put up drywall or service a boiler.
    - zlg_codes 3y ago
      It doesn't help that those jobs are hard on the body and are not compensated enough to make up for that deficiency. I love problem solving but the trades do not look like a healthy place to work.
- mrnotcrazy 3y ago
  I think depends on the context as to whether or not it’s cynical and how much is hard evidence vs personal perception. You think the world is in bad shape cause the national trend is towards a lower trust society? I don’t think that is necessarily cynical. If you doom scroll and have now collected a bunch of scary things you Have to be anxious about, probably a bit cynical.

zlg_codes 3y ago

You are correct, but it's sad that education isn't about knowledge. We're forced by market conditions to seek money more than knowledge. I've developed quite a cynical view of the world, with each new truth that's revealed about our society and the nature of people, my faith and trust lowers. But is it really cynical if, everywhere you look, you find evidence of its truth? Rhetorical question but I think about it daily.

PartiallyTyped 3y ago
You can very much make education about knowledge, god knows i have always been thirsty for knowledge, but that’s the adhd in me seeking novelty. I think that the broader society doesn’t encourage those who seek knowledge for the sake of knowledge, the know-it-alls, it doesn’t promote curiosity because curious minds question everything and leave no stone untouched, you don’t want that, you dont want people questioning your authority or capacity to rule metaphorical kingdoms. But I don’t think this view implies something sinister either. I think it just shows how much trauma we carry through from our upbringing. I don’t think the average person wakes up and chooses some form of punishment for others. I think ultimately we are all just trying to live some decent lives, and part of that includes avoiding confrontation with our shortcomings because that’s a difficult thing to do, especially if you are not used to.
- oceanplexian 3y ago
  The world needs ditch diggers as much as it needs PhD’s. We can come up with fictional stories about how robots or AI will magically do everything, but in the real world you need people to dig holes. Training people to follow instructions is a necessary kind of education. You can already see problems forming as a result of how education has changed in the last few years. Lots of people who can code but a massive shortage of anyone who can put up drywall or service a boiler.
  - zlg_codes 3y ago
    It doesn't help that those jobs are hard on the body and are not compensated enough to make up for that deficiency. I love problem solving but the trades do not look like a healthy place to work.
mrnotcrazy 3y ago
I think depends on the context as to whether or not it’s cynical and how much is hard evidence vs personal perception. You think the world is in bad shape cause the national trend is towards a lower trust society? I don’t think that is necessarily cynical. If you doom scroll and have now collected a bunch of scary things you Have to be anxious about, probably a bit cynical.