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Jack Dorsey is getting rid of annual reviews and PIPs at Block

31 points by rustoo 3y ago

madeofpalk 3y ago
> no more wasting time on annual reviews [...] Instead, the company will give workers a rating of "exceeds, meets, or fall below" expectations No more performance reviews. Instead, performance reviews!
- jsbisviewtiful 3y ago
  I’m surprised business insider articles are allowed on HN. They post extremely clickbaity and misleading headlines
  - _who_me_ 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - drivingmenuts 3y ago
    Roll D20 for evaluation ... did you make your save?
- icedchai 3y ago
  The typical "performance review" process involves writing pages of BS that nobody really reads or cares about. I'd much rather a simple rating and a quick conversation.
  - linguae 3y ago
    I’m reminded of what Deming has said about performance reviews, going as far as to call it a “deadly sin of management.” For context, Deming was a famous statistician who went to Japan after WWII and introduced management techniques that boosted the quality of products; he is still a well-known figure in Japan. A lot about Deming’s philosophy on performance reviews can be found here (https://deming.org/deming-on-management-performance-appraisal/ https://deming.org/deming-on-management-performance-appraisa...). Sadly I’m unaware of any American companies that adopts Deming’s philosophy on performance management. The HP Way was similar, but the HP Way died at HP decades ago and HP is now run like any other corporate American enterprise, but I digress.
    - nearting 3y ago
      The "philosophy on performance reviews" linked here seems to be only a few paragraphs, which I'd hardly characterize as a lot on Deming's views. His philosophy is essentially "performance reviews reward conformity rather than improvement of the review process".
thenerdhead 3y ago
I truly wonder how much time and money big corporations waste with these week to month long processes of rating an employee on perceived impact of work. People say it is complicated, but clearly it isn’t.
ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
Jack Dorsey is the king of over-hiring, slow, non innovative businesses. Then when it eventually collapses he slowly slinks away. He is like a govt organization masquerading as a startup.
- Jordanpomeroy 3y ago
  I don’t buy it. I think his strong suit is fostering innovation. It turns out that the logistics challenges of maintaining complex systems over long periods of time is a different strength that Stripe and Twitter seem not to Meet Expectations
  - ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
    What innovation?
bg24 3y ago
How is a system designed to give people the rating of “exceeds, meets, or fall below" expectations”? I can only imagine permutations involving rapid assessments by humans (manager and team). Same as performance review, but everything (primarily exits) are executed faster.
toasted-subs 3y ago
I always found external factors to be most influential to my work. It's not like I am a massive entity and I am getting blocked by other people stopping me from working.

31 points by rustoo 3y ago

> no more wasting time on annual reviews [...] Instead, the company will give workers a rating of "exceeds, meets, or fall below" expectations No more performance reviews. Instead, performance reviews!

jsbisviewtiful 3y ago
I’m surprised business insider articles are allowed on HN. They post extremely clickbaity and misleading headlines
- _who_me_ 3y ago
  [flagged]
- drivingmenuts 3y ago
  Roll D20 for evaluation ... did you make your save?
icedchai 3y ago
The typical "performance review" process involves writing pages of BS that nobody really reads or cares about. I'd much rather a simple rating and a quick conversation.
- linguae 3y ago
  I’m reminded of what Deming has said about performance reviews, going as far as to call it a “deadly sin of management.” For context, Deming was a famous statistician who went to Japan after WWII and introduced management techniques that boosted the quality of products; he is still a well-known figure in Japan. A lot about Deming’s philosophy on performance reviews can be found here (https://deming.org/deming-on-management-performance-appraisal/ https://deming.org/deming-on-management-performance-appraisa...). Sadly I’m unaware of any American companies that adopts Deming’s philosophy on performance management. The HP Way was similar, but the HP Way died at HP decades ago and HP is now run like any other corporate American enterprise, but I digress.
  - nearting 3y ago
    The "philosophy on performance reviews" linked here seems to be only a few paragraphs, which I'd hardly characterize as a lot on Deming's views. His philosophy is essentially "performance reviews reward conformity rather than improvement of the review process".

thenerdhead 3y ago

I truly wonder how much time and money big corporations waste with these week to month long processes of rating an employee on perceived impact of work. People say it is complicated, but clearly it isn’t.

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago

Jack Dorsey is the king of over-hiring, slow, non innovative businesses. Then when it eventually collapses he slowly slinks away. He is like a govt organization masquerading as a startup.

Jordanpomeroy 3y ago
I don’t buy it. I think his strong suit is fostering innovation. It turns out that the logistics challenges of maintaining complex systems over long periods of time is a different strength that Stripe and Twitter seem not to Meet Expectations
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
  What innovation?

bg24 3y ago

How is a system designed to give people the rating of “exceeds, meets, or fall below" expectations”? I can only imagine permutations involving rapid assessments by humans (manager and team). Same as performance review, but everything (primarily exits) are executed faster.

toasted-subs 3y ago

I always found external factors to be most influential to my work. It's not like I am a massive entity and I am getting blocked by other people stopping me from working.