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Can we (disclaimer: I'm not British, but I live here) just create a background noise, like random automated emails containing "nasty" keywords that would trigge

by rytis 15y ago

Can we (disclaimer: I'm not British, but I live here) just create a background noise, like random automated emails containing "nasty" keywords that would trigger their filters? This would effectively render any detection system useless as it would tag everyone as potential "terrorist" and "threat". I know, I know, it sounds childish, but if you think about it, what .gov.uk does is not that much different.

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mhitza 15y ago
Or create better tools so that PGP encryption can be practical again.
excuse-me 15y ago
This isn't about terrorism so it's a bit pointless. Like the previous RIPA laws - it was vital to fight international terrorism and actually used against people putting out their recycling bins on the wrong day or trying to send their kids to a better school. If you really want to tweak the system you should seed your emails with "flying tipping, parking meters, potholes, councillor's expenses"
- DanBC 15y ago
  CULTURAL NOTE: Just in case anyone is thinking that excuse-me is being hyperbolic - (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-10839104 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-10839104) A council used powers under RIPA to surveil a family over 20 times because they thought the family did not live in the correct catchment area for a school. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8341197.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8341197.stm) You only need "service manager" level, not director level to use these powers of surveillance. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8258043.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8258043.stm) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8192636.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8192636.stm) Everyone says they are against surveillance, and then they get in power and 'forget' the promises they made. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8003123.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8003123.stm) A trivial strengthening of protection was rejected. A magistrate is not a judge. I could be a magistrate, I just need to apply and go through the training.
  - excuse-me 15y ago
    Not to mention the vital work of the security services in the international war on dog mess http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/22/localgovernment.localgovernment http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/22/localgovernmen...
GoodIntentions 15y ago
There was a mail client ( or was it the server itself? can't recall ) that did essentially what you are after. This was around a long time ago - pre www web. It would append a paragraph of pretty inflammatory keyword-heavy text at the end of each email. Stuff calculated to false positive any monitoring. Anyone remember/know what I am talking about?
- repsilat 15y ago
  "Our love will outlive us in their computers" http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=194 http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=194
- ragmondo 15y ago
  emacs : M-x spook
  - GoodIntentions 15y ago
    tyvm

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mhitza 15y ago

Or create better tools so that PGP encryption can be practical again.

excuse-me 15y ago

This isn't about terrorism so it's a bit pointless. Like the previous RIPA laws - it was vital to fight international terrorism and actually used against people putting out their recycling bins on the wrong day or trying to send their kids to a better school. If you really want to tweak the system you should seed your emails with "flying tipping, parking meters, potholes, councillor's expenses"

DanBC 15y ago
CULTURAL NOTE: Just in case anyone is thinking that excuse-me is being hyperbolic - (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-10839104 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-10839104) A council used powers under RIPA to surveil a family over 20 times because they thought the family did not live in the correct catchment area for a school. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8341197.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8341197.stm) You only need "service manager" level, not director level to use these powers of surveillance. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8258043.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8258043.stm) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8192636.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8192636.stm) Everyone says they are against surveillance, and then they get in power and 'forget' the promises they made. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8003123.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8003123.stm) A trivial strengthening of protection was rejected. A magistrate is not a judge. I could be a magistrate, I just need to apply and go through the training.
- excuse-me 15y ago
  Not to mention the vital work of the security services in the international war on dog mess http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/22/localgovernment.localgovernment http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/22/localgovernmen...

GoodIntentions 15y ago

There was a mail client ( or was it the server itself? can't recall ) that did essentially what you are after. This was around a long time ago - pre www web. It would append a paragraph of pretty inflammatory keyword-heavy text at the end of each email. Stuff calculated to false positive any monitoring. Anyone remember/know what I am talking about?

repsilat 15y ago
"Our love will outlive us in their computers" http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=194 http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=194
ragmondo 15y ago
emacs : M-x spook
- GoodIntentions 15y ago
  tyvm