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I disagree with nearly this entire post, which is fun. I find that the poly blend shirts that the author loves (especially like the MongoDB shirt) are clingy an

I disagree with nearly this entire post, which is fun. I find that the poly blend shirts that the author loves (especially like the MongoDB shirt) are clingy and sweaty. Softness is low on my list of shirt priorities - comfort and fit are high. I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech, but maybe I'm too mired in tech to have an outsider's perspective. Also, that dark heathered grey color is everywhere in tech shirts right now and it just screams tech. The only one of these with a good design is the Altibase shirt, but it suffers from having the ugliest color. Give me black, 100% cotton, heavyweight Hanes Beefy-Ts with retro-looking logos.

tannhaeuser 3y ago
> I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech Idk but mongo-anything has clearly insulting connotations hasn't it? I'm not a fan of cancelling language at all but still find it very surprising a product with that name could advance that far in enterprise computing. I guess I had hoped the article would explain the joke I was missing here. Update: ads on a CMU site?
- PawgerZ 3y ago
  According to the founders "mongo" came from "humongous" not "mongoloid". Additionally, "Mongo" has never had insulting conotations in America, as far as I know. Also, if you weren't aware, Mongo is an ethnicity and a language, should we force them to change the name?
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djbusby 3y ago
That shirt, with long sleeves. My go-to for 20 years.
airstrike 3y ago
Somewhat off-topic but for those who want a black, 100% cotton and lighterweight t-shirt, IMHO nothing compares to Intimissimi[0] They run a bit small so I recommend one size larger than your regular size. They're currently on sale from Black Friday so only $14.30 each. (Large Black is now out-of-stock, sorry!) They also make many other varieties like v necks, long sleeve, modal/cashmere/ etc. (Claimer: I'm not affiliated or getting a referral from this... I just think they're a lesser known brand in the US) __________ 0. https://www.intimissimi.com/us/product/short_sleeve_crew_neck_t_shirt_in_supima%C2%AE_cotton-CMU12G.html?dwvar_CMU12G_Z_COL_INTU=019 https://www.intimissimi.com/us/product/short_sleeve_crew_nec...
- airstrike 3y ago
  Also worth noting that the only review on the website is very accurate despite being a 1-star review: "The quality of material is great. Neck is too low. Too lenghty". These are exactly the reasons why I like this shirt. Great material, neck is not too tight, probably an inch longer than many other fitted t-shirts, so your underwear isn't showing all the time.
  - loxias 3y ago
    Very good to know, now I won't waste $15. ;-) This whole comment thread is teaching me that apparently there isn't /any/ objective truth when it comes to t shirt comfort. Before today I figured that was an objective fact that the cheap Hanes ones were unloved -- neck always stretched out, too short and stout. I'm a fan of LA apparel (aka american apparel) as well as some bella+canvas ones. That stretched out neck just gives me flashbacks to middle school, ugh.
    - hodgesrm 3y ago
      > This whole comment thread is teaching me that apparently there isn't any objective truth when it comes to t shirt comfort. That's true of many things and has been for a long time. "De gustibus non disputandum est," as the Romans said. "It's useless to argue about taste."
      - heresie-dabord 3y ago
        > "It's useless to argue about taste... or T-shirt comfort." I updated your statement for the remainder of modern history. ^_^
    - airstrike 3y ago
      FWIW I don't think Intimissimi shirts have a quote-unquote "stretched out neck", just a tiny bit of extra room... I hadn't even noticed it until I read the review
leetrout 3y ago
Follow on, my biggest frustration with these super thin, clingy shirts is how _everyone_ is showing their nipples through them now.
- jjgreen 3y ago
  Nipple covers are a thing
- CrazyStat 3y ago
  Why does seeing nipples through a tshirt bother you so much?
  - 0xbadcafebee 3y ago
    Thelephobia - fear of nipples
  - nerdponx 3y ago
    It's just a weird fleshy body part that I'm not used to seeing and generally don't want to see on other people. Also the feeling of a plasticky "technical" shirt on my own nipples is very unpleasant.
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  Well—T-shirts did start out as underwear.
bubblethink 3y ago
>I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech Depends on the age. MongoDB may not have been such a common name back when the tshirt came out. I have a couple of Palantir t-shirts (american apparel, 100% cotton I think) that have held up over a decade and are really comfortable. One of them says, "Save the shire" and Palantir. I don't think people would have known that it's a tech tshirt back then.
- mulmen 3y ago
  Everything about that organization offends me. They took their name from a series of books they apparently never read. How is Palantir supposed to save the shire? By trampling the rights of the Hobbits in addition to destroying their environment? The Palantir show a narrow view of events and lead to their users to ruin. It’s like they read the cautionary tale as an instruction manual. They chose an accurate name for what their product does, but I can’t understand how a person with that clarity of thought would decide to actually make one.
  - pc86 3y ago
    This seems unrelated to the comfort and fit of their shirts, but maybe not?
    - mulmen 3y ago
      I have been in the same room as someone wearing a Palantir shirt and I was uncomfortable.
  - dbt00 3y ago
    Palantir is a Quenya word meaning far-seeing. The last successful king of Numenor was Tar-Palantir for example. The palantiri were corrupted by Sauron and limited to only show things that he wanted you to see. This was extremely well known inside Palantir and was deliberately talked about as something we should all consider the risk of. The origin story of Palantir was the intelligence failures that led to the 9/11 attacks not being caught. The goal was to prevent the total eradication of civil liberties that would necessarily follow another successful attack of that magnitude. Palantir’s software was rejected by organizations performing dragnet style mass data collection. This is the most pointless hn comment I’ll ever leave, but you shouldn’t assume other people are ignorant or acting out of malice. Also the tshirts were comfy as fuck and extremely well designed.
ljm 3y ago
The author calls a hoodie a shirt. I’m not sure I trust their opinion on the fit and comfort of database-branded apparel.
- munificent 3y ago
  I strongly disagree with the claim that it's a hoodie simply because it has a hood. Many hooded garments are not hoodies. To be a hoodie, it must be made out of thicker sweatshirt material. A long-sleeve T-shirt with a hood is just a long-sleeve T-shirt with a hood.
  - mathgeek 3y ago
    Indeed. Anyone who lives near a beach in a warm climate is likely familiar with these long sleeve hooded “tees”.
    - abhibeckert 3y ago
      As someone who lives near a beach in a warm climate... I've never seen anyone wear one of these nor have I seen them for sale in stores. I can't imagine when I'd wear one either - if I want protection from the sun I'll wear a hat or sunscreen - not a hood.
      - llbeansandrice 3y ago
        I wear poly ones that are spf50 all the time when I’m fishing so I don’t need to worry about applying sunscreen to large parts of my body multiple times a day.
      - bitvoid 3y ago
        I typically have really short hair, so I wear one with the hood on when it's chilly inside, but not so chilly that I want the heater on or want to wear a sweater.
      - __MatrixMan__ 3y ago
        My whole climbing crew has made the switch from hats and sunscreen to sunshirts. They fit under a helmet, and they feel less cancery than repeatedly slathering on some goo and crossing your fingers. It's one thing if you're free to roam about to a more comfortable area, but if you're stuck on belay duty on the sunny part of the face, you'll be happier with a sunshirt. And then you're used to it, and you start wearing them elsewhere too, because why bother with lesser protection? They may be more popular at higher altitudes than at the beach though. Beach folk have a bit more atmosphere protecting them.
ourmandave 3y ago
My holy grail was the Hanes ComfortSoft 100% cotton T. Available in 6-paks at the local Walmart. They start soft and just get better. But they changed the fabric a while ago and it's not the same. Still have a few that are getting pretty threadbare.
- gammarator 3y ago
  What you want now is Hanes Premium slim fit, which is a cotton/poly blend similar to the old ComfortSoft. Watch out because some Hanes Premium are 100% cotton, which is not what you want at least at this price point.
a_t48 3y ago
Black 100% cotton tends to collect lint and cat hair, doesn’t it?
matsemann 3y ago
> don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech I disagree with the author in that I would be comfortable wearing a mongodb shirt in public. Mongoloid is a slur, and at least in Norway it's often shortened to "mongo".
- stvltvs 3y ago
  Interesting, in the States, that term is no longer used very much and was never shortened AFAIK.
  - selimthegrim 3y ago
    I’m pretty sure it was shortened, but as a name for a character
    - jjgreen 3y ago
      In "Blazing Saddles" ...
- jjgreen 3y ago
  Is that a racial slur (i.e., Asian), or about Down syndrome? The latter was used in the UK many years ago, I've not heard it for 25 years (?), so "mongo" wouldn't raise an eyebrow here now.
  - vladvasiliu 3y ago
    In France, that would be related to Down syndrome. Technically, in these parts it would be "mongol", with an l, like the people of Mongolia. AFAICT it's not exactly used against people with actual Down syndrome, but rather as a synonym for "idiot" and the like.
  - matsemann 3y ago
    It's kinda both. Mongoloid here used to refer to people with Downs, by comparing them to the (non existent) Asian race of Mongoloids due to both often having eyes with epicanthic fold. Of course I didn't know this when using it as a kid back in the days, and I've luckily not heard it used for ages, but I think all of my peers would remember it if used on a t-shirt.

tannhaeuser 3y ago

> I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech Idk but mongo-anything has clearly insulting connotations hasn't it? I'm not a fan of cancelling language at all but still find it very surprising a product with that name could advance that far in enterprise computing. I guess I had hoped the article would explain the joke I was missing here. Update: ads on a CMU site?

PawgerZ 3y ago
According to the founders "mongo" came from "humongous" not "mongoloid". Additionally, "Mongo" has never had insulting conotations in America, as far as I know. Also, if you weren't aware, Mongo is an ethnicity and a language, should we force them to change the name?

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djbusby 3y ago

That shirt, with long sleeves. My go-to for 20 years.

airstrike 3y ago

Somewhat off-topic but for those who want a black, 100% cotton and lighterweight t-shirt, IMHO nothing compares to Intimissimi[0] They run a bit small so I recommend one size larger than your regular size. They're currently on sale from Black Friday so only $14.30 each. (Large Black is now out-of-stock, sorry!) They also make many other varieties like v necks, long sleeve, modal/cashmere/ etc. (Claimer: I'm not affiliated or getting a referral from this... I just think they're a lesser known brand in the US) __________ 0. https://www.intimissimi.com/us/product/short_sleeve_crew_neck_t_shirt_in_supima%C2%AE_cotton-CMU12G.html?dwvar_CMU12G_Z_COL_INTU=019 https://www.intimissimi.com/us/product/short_sleeve_crew_nec...

airstrike 3y ago
Also worth noting that the only review on the website is very accurate despite being a 1-star review: "The quality of material is great. Neck is too low. Too lenghty". These are exactly the reasons why I like this shirt. Great material, neck is not too tight, probably an inch longer than many other fitted t-shirts, so your underwear isn't showing all the time.
- loxias 3y ago
  Very good to know, now I won't waste $15. ;-) This whole comment thread is teaching me that apparently there isn't /any/ objective truth when it comes to t shirt comfort. Before today I figured that was an objective fact that the cheap Hanes ones were unloved -- neck always stretched out, too short and stout. I'm a fan of LA apparel (aka american apparel) as well as some bella+canvas ones. That stretched out neck just gives me flashbacks to middle school, ugh.
  - hodgesrm 3y ago
    > This whole comment thread is teaching me that apparently there isn't any objective truth when it comes to t shirt comfort. That's true of many things and has been for a long time. "De gustibus non disputandum est," as the Romans said. "It's useless to argue about taste."
    - heresie-dabord 3y ago
      > "It's useless to argue about taste... or T-shirt comfort." I updated your statement for the remainder of modern history. ^_^
  - airstrike 3y ago
    FWIW I don't think Intimissimi shirts have a quote-unquote "stretched out neck", just a tiny bit of extra room... I hadn't even noticed it until I read the review

leetrout 3y ago

Follow on, my biggest frustration with these super thin, clingy shirts is how _everyone_ is showing their nipples through them now.

jjgreen 3y ago
Nipple covers are a thing
CrazyStat 3y ago
Why does seeing nipples through a tshirt bother you so much?
- 0xbadcafebee 3y ago
  Thelephobia - fear of nipples
- nerdponx 3y ago
  It's just a weird fleshy body part that I'm not used to seeing and generally don't want to see on other people. Also the feeling of a plasticky "technical" shirt on my own nipples is very unpleasant.
hotnfresh 3y ago
Well—T-shirts did start out as underwear.

bubblethink 3y ago

>I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech Depends on the age. MongoDB may not have been such a common name back when the tshirt came out. I have a couple of Palantir t-shirts (american apparel, 100% cotton I think) that have held up over a decade and are really comfortable. One of them says, "Save the shire" and Palantir. I don't think people would have known that it's a tech tshirt back then.

mulmen 3y ago
Everything about that organization offends me. They took their name from a series of books they apparently never read. How is Palantir supposed to save the shire? By trampling the rights of the Hobbits in addition to destroying their environment? The Palantir show a narrow view of events and lead to their users to ruin. It’s like they read the cautionary tale as an instruction manual. They chose an accurate name for what their product does, but I can’t understand how a person with that clarity of thought would decide to actually make one.
- pc86 3y ago
  This seems unrelated to the comfort and fit of their shirts, but maybe not?
  - mulmen 3y ago
    I have been in the same room as someone wearing a Palantir shirt and I was uncomfortable.
- dbt00 3y ago
  Palantir is a Quenya word meaning far-seeing. The last successful king of Numenor was Tar-Palantir for example. The palantiri were corrupted by Sauron and limited to only show things that he wanted you to see. This was extremely well known inside Palantir and was deliberately talked about as something we should all consider the risk of. The origin story of Palantir was the intelligence failures that led to the 9/11 attacks not being caught. The goal was to prevent the total eradication of civil liberties that would necessarily follow another successful attack of that magnitude. Palantir’s software was rejected by organizations performing dragnet style mass data collection. This is the most pointless hn comment I’ll ever leave, but you shouldn’t assume other people are ignorant or acting out of malice. Also the tshirts were comfy as fuck and extremely well designed.

ljm 3y ago

The author calls a hoodie a shirt. I’m not sure I trust their opinion on the fit and comfort of database-branded apparel.

munificent 3y ago
I strongly disagree with the claim that it's a hoodie simply because it has a hood. Many hooded garments are not hoodies. To be a hoodie, it must be made out of thicker sweatshirt material. A long-sleeve T-shirt with a hood is just a long-sleeve T-shirt with a hood.
- mathgeek 3y ago
  Indeed. Anyone who lives near a beach in a warm climate is likely familiar with these long sleeve hooded “tees”.
  - abhibeckert 3y ago
    As someone who lives near a beach in a warm climate... I've never seen anyone wear one of these nor have I seen them for sale in stores. I can't imagine when I'd wear one either - if I want protection from the sun I'll wear a hat or sunscreen - not a hood.
    - llbeansandrice 3y ago
      I wear poly ones that are spf50 all the time when I’m fishing so I don’t need to worry about applying sunscreen to large parts of my body multiple times a day.
    - bitvoid 3y ago
      I typically have really short hair, so I wear one with the hood on when it's chilly inside, but not so chilly that I want the heater on or want to wear a sweater.
    - __MatrixMan__ 3y ago
      My whole climbing crew has made the switch from hats and sunscreen to sunshirts. They fit under a helmet, and they feel less cancery than repeatedly slathering on some goo and crossing your fingers. It's one thing if you're free to roam about to a more comfortable area, but if you're stuck on belay duty on the sunny part of the face, you'll be happier with a sunshirt. And then you're used to it, and you start wearing them elsewhere too, because why bother with lesser protection? They may be more popular at higher altitudes than at the beach though. Beach folk have a bit more atmosphere protecting them.

ourmandave 3y ago

My holy grail was the Hanes ComfortSoft 100% cotton T. Available in 6-paks at the local Walmart. They start soft and just get better. But they changed the fabric a while ago and it's not the same. Still have a few that are getting pretty threadbare.

gammarator 3y ago
What you want now is Hanes Premium slim fit, which is a cotton/poly blend similar to the old ComfortSoft. Watch out because some Hanes Premium are 100% cotton, which is not what you want at least at this price point.

a_t48 3y ago

Black 100% cotton tends to collect lint and cat hair, doesn’t it?

matsemann 3y ago

> don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech I disagree with the author in that I would be comfortable wearing a mongodb shirt in public. Mongoloid is a slur, and at least in Norway it's often shortened to "mongo".

stvltvs 3y ago
Interesting, in the States, that term is no longer used very much and was never shortened AFAIK.
- selimthegrim 3y ago
  I’m pretty sure it was shortened, but as a name for a character
  - jjgreen 3y ago
    In "Blazing Saddles" ...
jjgreen 3y ago
Is that a racial slur (i.e., Asian), or about Down syndrome? The latter was used in the UK many years ago, I've not heard it for 25 years (?), so "mongo" wouldn't raise an eyebrow here now.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  In France, that would be related to Down syndrome. Technically, in these parts it would be "mongol", with an l, like the people of Mongolia. AFAICT it's not exactly used against people with actual Down syndrome, but rather as a synonym for "idiot" and the like.
- matsemann 3y ago
  It's kinda both. Mongoloid here used to refer to people with Downs, by comparing them to the (non existent) Asian race of Mongoloids due to both often having eyes with epicanthic fold. Of course I didn't know this when using it as a kid back in the days, and I've luckily not heard it used for ages, but I think all of my peers would remember it if used on a t-shirt.