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I learned this when I tried correcting the wikipedia page on Docker. I literally wrote the first prototype. But this wasn't enough source for wikipedia. And to
by bombela 3y ago
I learned this when I tried correcting the wikipedia page on Docker. I literally wrote the first prototype. But this wasn't enough source for wikipedia. And to this day the English page is still not truthfull (interestingly enough, the french version is closer to the truth).
- nerdponx 3y agoYou could publish a little webpage called "An historical note about the Docker prototype" under your own name, which you could then cite on Wikipedia. I think it makes perfect sense as a general and strict policy for an encyclopedia. It would simply be too hard to audit every case to check if it's someone like you, or a crank.
- andrewf 3y agoThat may fall afoul of the "reputably published" requirement at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research... Basically, Wikipedia wants a primary source's claims to be vetted by a third party, either a "reputable publisher" or a secondary source.
- nerdponx 3y agoDoesn't that disqualify just about any personal blog as a source, or any academic preprint (like on Arxiv)? I can't imagine that's widely enforced.
- 3836293648 3y agoWell, stuff like the ArXiv is exactly what they don't want cited
- gmgmgmgmgm 3y agoyou'd have to publish under another name. reference to the author's blog is also disallowed
- dTal 3y agoI don't see how requiring someone to set up a little webpage filters out cranks. If anything I might expect it to favor them.
- nerdponx 3y agoThe idea is that it's a separate, distinct source, which exists outside of and independently from the encyclopedia itself, and can be archived, mirrored, etc. Its veracity and usefulness can then be debated or discussed as needed.
- bombela 3y agoMaybe I should write the story as a comment on hacker news, and link to it ;) Joke aside, I should probably take up on your advice.
- a1369209993 3y agoYes. Do this (make sure it's not a top-level submission) and cite the HN comment specifically. Stupid rules deserve stupid compliance.
- nerdponx 3y agoWhy would a top-level submission not be valid on Wikipedia?
- a1369209993 3y agoIt (presumably) would; the problem is that it could be considered more dignified and academically respectable than a random forum comment.