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Seems very likely the strike action will win out, otherwise there's no effective route to strike action from postal workers. Whether they aren't allowed to stri

Seems very likely the strike action will win out, otherwise there's no effective route to strike action from postal workers. Whether they aren't allowed to strike or Postnord is allowed to bring in non-union workers, both would neutralise any strike effectiveness, and given Sweden's strong labour laws it seems unlikely that would be the case. Another way of looking at it is that Postnord is not refusing as a policy to deliver mail, and that's probably what the legal obligation is around. It's just that their employees are striking so mail isn't currently being delivered. The same happens in the UK, Royal Mail are obligated to deliver to every address, but that doesn't stop there being strikes.

Jensson 3y ago
> and given Sweden's strong labour laws it seems unlikely that would be the case Sweden doesn't have strong labour laws, Sweden just doesn't regulate union power that much. Unions are extremely powerful entities with no regulations so you have to limit it a bit, just like you have to limit the power of private corporations. If a private corporation could block your access to essential government services then that would be a big problem, the same applies to unions. The government is supposed to be impartial in this case, a union shouldn't be allowed to block essential government services.
- M95D 3y ago
  > Unions are extremely powerful entities with no regulations so you have to limit it a bit Why? > just like you have to limit the power of private corporations. Not the same thing. Unions act in the interest of their members and even other workers non-members. Corporations act in the interest of their shareholders, against workers (lower salary => profit) and ordinary citizens (polution, monopoly, prices, lower quality => all profit). Or maybe you are not interested in all that? > If a private corporation could block your access to essential government services then that would be a big problem Like how my internet service provider could (if they wanted to) block my access to government sites? Yes. True. Big problem. But they can. Right now, they can. > the same applies to unions But they only block it for a company, a specific company. Why should companies be treated like natural persons? > The government is supposed to be impartial in this case Wrong. So wrong I'm shocked anyone could say this. Are you paid to troll? Did you ever hear of a concept called "DEMOCRACY"? Goverments should act in the interest of their citizens (who voted!), not be impartial to citizens vs. corporations. More than that they should be impartial and act for the good of ALL their citizens, not doing favors to Tesla customers who didn't receive their toy before Christmas.

Jensson 3y ago

> and given Sweden's strong labour laws it seems unlikely that would be the case Sweden doesn't have strong labour laws, Sweden just doesn't regulate union power that much. Unions are extremely powerful entities with no regulations so you have to limit it a bit, just like you have to limit the power of private corporations. If a private corporation could block your access to essential government services then that would be a big problem, the same applies to unions. The government is supposed to be impartial in this case, a union shouldn't be allowed to block essential government services.

M95D 3y ago
> Unions are extremely powerful entities with no regulations so you have to limit it a bit Why? > just like you have to limit the power of private corporations. Not the same thing. Unions act in the interest of their members and even other workers non-members. Corporations act in the interest of their shareholders, against workers (lower salary => profit) and ordinary citizens (polution, monopoly, prices, lower quality => all profit). Or maybe you are not interested in all that? > If a private corporation could block your access to essential government services then that would be a big problem Like how my internet service provider could (if they wanted to) block my access to government sites? Yes. True. Big problem. But they can. Right now, they can. > the same applies to unions But they only block it for a company, a specific company. Why should companies be treated like natural persons? > The government is supposed to be impartial in this case Wrong. So wrong I'm shocked anyone could say this. Are you paid to troll? Did you ever hear of a concept called "DEMOCRACY"? Goverments should act in the interest of their citizens (who voted!), not be impartial to citizens vs. corporations. More than that they should be impartial and act for the good of ALL their citizens, not doing favors to Tesla customers who didn't receive their toy before Christmas.