>This article reads a lot more like "In praise of Cocoa" than anything specific to Objective-C, the language. The author clearly sees them as one beast when the

>This article reads a lot more like "In praise of Cocoa" than anything specific to Objective-C, the language. The author clearly sees them as one beast when they are quite separate. How so? Since, 99% of Objectice-C development includes Cocoa. It's like arguing C++ and STL are separate. Might be true, but it's a rather pedantic distinction.