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People who don't see the problem with Edge must all be domain joined or on Pro for Workstations / Enterprise. Supposedly the browser doesn't annoy "confirmed" b

by _cenw 3y ago

People who don't see the problem with Edge must all be domain joined or on Pro for Workstations / Enterprise. Supposedly the browser doesn't annoy "confirmed" business customers as much. I recently switched to the RC Insider ring just to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge. Because it started doing incredibly creepy stuff. * Keeps asking me every day if I want to keep my new tab extension. No way to set a blank page either. If you don't use an extension, it's "Microsoft Home" (which doesn't even let you properly set your own background, and keeps showing me squids, no thanks). Despite me clicking no every time, it still occasionally disables it. I think there may be a timeout, and then the disabled plugin syncs everywhere. * Asked me if it could shouldersurf my Kagi searches and scrape them to improve Bing. If I was Kagi, I'd think about blocking the Edge user agent. * Upon clicking "no" on the point above, it changed my search engine to Bing. * Edge also has a feature to regularly scrape other Browsers for their history to submit to Microsoft. Given every other Edge feature did not respect my consent in an honestly gaslighting fashion, I don't feel confident any browsing data on a Windows machine is private unless you install the above Release Candidate and set your Region to EU to uninstall Edge. Here's the guide I followed. Just set your region to Ireland or something: https://www.partitionwizard.com/news/uninstall-microsoft-edge-bing.html https://www.partitionwizard.com/news/uninstall-microsoft-edg...

account42 3y ago
> I don't feel confident any browsing data on a Windows machine is private unless you install the above Release Candidate and set your Region to EU to uninstall Edge. You are still coping thinking you can somehow outplay Microsoft. You can't. Stop using software made by obviously hostile entities.
- _cenw 3y ago
  hey, thanks for clicking on my profile to leave a snarky drive-by comment you can stop now
Dah00n 3y ago
>to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge. Again — as a former anti-EU person — I am reminded why I am now pro-EU. While nowhere perfect it is much better than not having an EU and way, way better than the US.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  I've come across many anti EU persons and there are some broad categories: - the uninformed, they have no idea about how the EU came about or what it does, but they're against it anyway - the people on the receiving end of the regulations (anti-trust, advertisers, marketeers, bankers, data sellers etc). They have a very good idea about what it does, but it interferes with their preferred way of getting to more cash. - the people that are nostalgic and that remember their country as it was 50 years ago and would like to go back there. They believe that because the EU happened to coincide with the downslide of their country that the two are related. What they usually forget is that without the EU that downslide would have been much worse. - the people who genuinely believe that 'smaller is better' when it comes to politics and who tend to miss the wood for the trees: that in politics smaller is only better when you are very wealthy and can set your own rules. Think Switzerland. Everybody else will have a less privileged position and if they find themselves up against the giants of the world for whatever reason suddenly 'small' translates to 'weak'. In unity there is some strength so it makes sense for smaller countries to join in a larger unit, if only to curb the inevitable infighting (and the local wars that come with those). I've yet to come across someone who actually spent some time figuring out what the EU actually does who remained against it. There is a lot of valid criticism against the EU bureaucrats: lots of them are grifters and there is quite a bit of corruption. But it is much worse in other places and on balance I'll take the grifters because I realize that politics as such is a grift of sorts, but it is inevitable, like taxes are. Until we manage to change human nature no political system will be perfect. But given that the EU tends to stand up for the little guy and that they are powerful enough to make a difference but not so powerful enough that they are getting drunk on that power I'm ok with it.
  - vodkapump 3y ago
    You forgot one: - Don't touch my fish
b112 3y ago
You know, people say to fear AI, and maybe yes, maybe no. But I know one thing. Fear Microsoft. Decades of Microsoft breaking the law, anticompetitive behavior, and just acting like scum. And openai took their money. Openai is in bed with them. To me, this means openai's intentions are clear. Because only scum, take money, and partner with scum.

by _cenw 3y ago

account42 3y ago

> I don't feel confident any browsing data on a Windows machine is private unless you install the above Release Candidate and set your Region to EU to uninstall Edge. You are still coping thinking you can somehow outplay Microsoft. You can't. Stop using software made by obviously hostile entities.

_cenw 3y ago
hey, thanks for clicking on my profile to leave a snarky drive-by comment you can stop now

Dah00n 3y ago

>to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge. Again — as a former anti-EU person — I am reminded why I am now pro-EU. While nowhere perfect it is much better than not having an EU and way, way better than the US.

jacquesm 3y ago
I've come across many anti EU persons and there are some broad categories: - the uninformed, they have no idea about how the EU came about or what it does, but they're against it anyway - the people on the receiving end of the regulations (anti-trust, advertisers, marketeers, bankers, data sellers etc). They have a very good idea about what it does, but it interferes with their preferred way of getting to more cash. - the people that are nostalgic and that remember their country as it was 50 years ago and would like to go back there. They believe that because the EU happened to coincide with the downslide of their country that the two are related. What they usually forget is that without the EU that downslide would have been much worse. - the people who genuinely believe that 'smaller is better' when it comes to politics and who tend to miss the wood for the trees: that in politics smaller is only better when you are very wealthy and can set your own rules. Think Switzerland. Everybody else will have a less privileged position and if they find themselves up against the giants of the world for whatever reason suddenly 'small' translates to 'weak'. In unity there is some strength so it makes sense for smaller countries to join in a larger unit, if only to curb the inevitable infighting (and the local wars that come with those). I've yet to come across someone who actually spent some time figuring out what the EU actually does who remained against it. There is a lot of valid criticism against the EU bureaucrats: lots of them are grifters and there is quite a bit of corruption. But it is much worse in other places and on balance I'll take the grifters because I realize that politics as such is a grift of sorts, but it is inevitable, like taxes are. Until we manage to change human nature no political system will be perfect. But given that the EU tends to stand up for the little guy and that they are powerful enough to make a difference but not so powerful enough that they are getting drunk on that power I'm ok with it.
- vodkapump 3y ago
  You forgot one: - Don't touch my fish

b112 3y ago

You know, people say to fear AI, and maybe yes, maybe no. But I know one thing. Fear Microsoft. Decades of Microsoft breaking the law, anticompetitive behavior, and just acting like scum. And openai took their money. Openai is in bed with them. To me, this means openai's intentions are clear. Because only scum, take money, and partner with scum.