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Blink is the de facto web standard like it or not just like linux is for web hosting and both are open source and contributed to by many companies. Firefox is n

Blink is the de facto web standard like it or not just like linux is for web hosting and both are open source and contributed to by many companies. Firefox is now in 5th place for browser market share and Mozilla is a dumpster fire of a company, imo it is only a matter of time before Firefox switches or completely folds.

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tinus_hn 3y ago
Spoken like a true Internet Explorer believer in 2010. Nothing is forever, no matter how solid its lead appears to be.
- theferalrobot 3y ago
  Certainly not but believing that FireFox is going to resurrect itself from a dropping market share of 3% is delusional and the sooner we all face reality the better we can make it. I loved FireFox over the years but he’s dead Jim.
  - jraph 3y ago
    How do you know this? It hasn't happened just yet. Let's wait and see. I still use Firefox, it's still regularly updated and it still works very well. It pretty much does the job, regardless its number of users. It'll be dead when it won't receive updates anymore. I don't understand what good can be done by considering it dead right now.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    I don't really understand this - would you not buy a car if it has too small a market share? Why not just use it? What reality is there to face?
    - ryan-c 3y ago
      Roads don't get replaced with ones which are incompatible with unpopular cars on a regular basis.
      - jraph 3y ago
        But current roads are compatible with this particular unpopular car for the most part. The one odd incompatible road here and there is also mostly there. These roads or the unpopular car we are speaking about only needs a few superficial tweaks. Nothing fundamental. I know, I'm still rocking this car. It has the best windshield wipers of the market, for the very rainy roads. It is also free so it's not like I'm making a big investment by picking it and risking it becomes irrelevant soon. Which I don't see coming, to be clear.
      - robertlagrant 3y ago
        They have $400m coming in every year - surely enough to keep up with main changes if engineering were prioritised, with a large stash to invest for the future. But still - what reality is there to face? At absolute worse we...switch browser in 10 years?
        ryan-c 3y ago
        Idiots still do user agent checks and block anything they don't explicitly support.
        robertlagrant 3y ago
        I use Firefox every day and I don't see this. Can you elaborate on how you know this?
bayindirh 3y ago
> imo it is only a matter of time before Firefox switches or completely folds. Indeed, it's your opinion. Development and benchmark tells another story: https://arewefastyet.com/win10/benchmarks/overview?numDays=60 https://arewefastyet.com/win10/benchmarks/overview?numDays=6... OTOH, Firefox's "perceived slowness" is mostly due to your local DNS response times. On fast DNS, Firefox is at least equal to chrome in terms of speed.
- theferalrobot 3y ago
  I didn’t mention a thing about ‘percieved slowness’ and it isn’t my opinion it is the entire market’s opinion, I’m a former FireFox user, don’t shoot the messenger: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

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tinus_hn 3y ago

Spoken like a true Internet Explorer believer in 2010. Nothing is forever, no matter how solid its lead appears to be.

theferalrobot 3y ago
Certainly not but believing that FireFox is going to resurrect itself from a dropping market share of 3% is delusional and the sooner we all face reality the better we can make it. I loved FireFox over the years but he’s dead Jim.
- jraph 3y ago
  How do you know this? It hasn't happened just yet. Let's wait and see. I still use Firefox, it's still regularly updated and it still works very well. It pretty much does the job, regardless its number of users. It'll be dead when it won't receive updates anymore. I don't understand what good can be done by considering it dead right now.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  I don't really understand this - would you not buy a car if it has too small a market share? Why not just use it? What reality is there to face?
  - ryan-c 3y ago
    Roads don't get replaced with ones which are incompatible with unpopular cars on a regular basis.
    - jraph 3y ago
      But current roads are compatible with this particular unpopular car for the most part. The one odd incompatible road here and there is also mostly there. These roads or the unpopular car we are speaking about only needs a few superficial tweaks. Nothing fundamental. I know, I'm still rocking this car. It has the best windshield wipers of the market, for the very rainy roads. It is also free so it's not like I'm making a big investment by picking it and risking it becomes irrelevant soon. Which I don't see coming, to be clear.
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      They have $400m coming in every year - surely enough to keep up with main changes if engineering were prioritised, with a large stash to invest for the future. But still - what reality is there to face? At absolute worse we...switch browser in 10 years?
      - ryan-c 3y ago
        Idiots still do user agent checks and block anything they don't explicitly support.
        robertlagrant 3y ago
        I use Firefox every day and I don't see this. Can you elaborate on how you know this?

bayindirh 3y ago

> imo it is only a matter of time before Firefox switches or completely folds. Indeed, it's your opinion. Development and benchmark tells another story: https://arewefastyet.com/win10/benchmarks/overview?numDays=60 https://arewefastyet.com/win10/benchmarks/overview?numDays=6... OTOH, Firefox's "perceived slowness" is mostly due to your local DNS response times. On fast DNS, Firefox is at least equal to chrome in terms of speed.

theferalrobot 3y ago
I didn’t mention a thing about ‘percieved slowness’ and it isn’t my opinion it is the entire market’s opinion, I’m a former FireFox user, don’t shoot the messenger: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share