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Churches run on donations and most of them are full on charities that give a ton to local and foreign communities. No way you’re taking tax exempt status from

Churches run on donations and most of them are full on charities that give a ton to local and foreign communities. No way you’re taking tax exempt status from them nor should you try. Universities, and especially their sports teams, on the other hand are outright businesses

renewiltord 3y ago
Universities invest a ton into underprivileged children. Their sports systems are the only way for many poverty-stricken people to make it. You shouldn't stop that from happening. Hillsong, as an example on the other hand, is an outright business with millions of dollars in revenue.
coryrc 3y ago
> most of them are full on charities Which would still be fully tax-deductible. The portion going to staffing should not be a charitable deduction. They should pay property tax on their performance halls like secular ones do.
- sarchertech 3y ago
  You’re free to set up a tax free secular literary, scientific, or educational organization that functions exactly like a church with a meeting hall, performance venue, lectures discussing mark Twain, classes on bicycle repair, cheese making, model railroading etc… Here is a list of the purposes for which you can setup a 501(c)(3) organization. “charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals” If you remove religious for some reason, churches will just operate as educational or literary organizations, so you’d need to remove those as well.
  - coryrc 3y ago
    1. They would have to pay property tax, just as I think cemeteries should. (guess what, I'm also a Georgist). 2. "churches will just operate as" or not, we're taking hypothetical here, it's my fantasy and they don't get to!
    - sarchertech 3y ago
      Depends on the state. Most states allow some subset of 501(c)(3) organza to forgo property taxes. So if you’re running things, the Mark Twain society gets to operate tax free, but the Jesus society doesn’t? Sounds dangerous to me.

renewiltord 3y ago

Universities invest a ton into underprivileged children. Their sports systems are the only way for many poverty-stricken people to make it. You shouldn't stop that from happening. Hillsong, as an example on the other hand, is an outright business with millions of dollars in revenue.

coryrc 3y ago

> most of them are full on charities Which would still be fully tax-deductible. The portion going to staffing should not be a charitable deduction. They should pay property tax on their performance halls like secular ones do.

sarchertech 3y ago
You’re free to set up a tax free secular literary, scientific, or educational organization that functions exactly like a church with a meeting hall, performance venue, lectures discussing mark Twain, classes on bicycle repair, cheese making, model railroading etc… Here is a list of the purposes for which you can setup a 501(c)(3) organization. “charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals” If you remove religious for some reason, churches will just operate as educational or literary organizations, so you’d need to remove those as well.
- coryrc 3y ago
  1. They would have to pay property tax, just as I think cemeteries should. (guess what, I'm also a Georgist). 2. "churches will just operate as" or not, we're taking hypothetical here, it's my fantasy and they don't get to!
  - sarchertech 3y ago
    Depends on the state. Most states allow some subset of 501(c)(3) organza to forgo property taxes. So if you’re running things, the Mark Twain society gets to operate tax free, but the Jesus society doesn’t? Sounds dangerous to me.