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Basically Wayland only supports a subset of what X11 could do. It's more scoped and does a good job with what it's supposed to do. That said, the rest of the f

Basically Wayland only supports a subset of what X11 could do. It's more scoped and does a good job with what it's supposed to do. That said, the rest of the functionality is now an exercise for desktop environments, and they can (and do) things differently.

LtWorf 3y ago
> does a good job with what it's supposed to do. And anything that people used to do on X11, they are told by zealots that they are wrong and aren't supposed to do that. For example: Not losing all the work every time your windows manager crashes remapping keys Use xinput to change parameters of their input devices (libinput dropped most configuration options present with evdev) Global shortcuts tunnelling over ssh
- Arnavion 3y ago
  >Not losing all the work every time your windows manager crashes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37509703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37509703 >remapping keys >Use xinput to change parameters of their input devices (libinput dropped most configuration options present with evdev) Up to the compositor. >Global shortcuts Also up to the compositor. Was added to xdp in https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/main/data/org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.xml https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/main/data... so it's up to the compositor's xdp impl to provide it. It was created by a KDE dev so I assume KDE implements it at least. >tunnelling over ssh https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe
  - LtWorf 3y ago
    > Up to the compositor. > Also up to the compositor. Exactly my point! Right there. Thanks.
    - erinnh 3y ago
      What’s your point? You didn’t make it. Before you said that your point was that people tell you you aren’t supposed to do those things. But you are able to remap your keys. Remapping keys has been possible in Wayland for quite a while in any compositor I used. (KDE, Gnome, Sway)
      - LtWorf 3y ago
        Not arbitrary remapping of any key.

LtWorf 3y ago

> does a good job with what it's supposed to do. And anything that people used to do on X11, they are told by zealots that they are wrong and aren't supposed to do that. For example: Not losing all the work every time your windows manager crashes remapping keys Use xinput to change parameters of their input devices (libinput dropped most configuration options present with evdev) Global shortcuts tunnelling over ssh

Arnavion 3y ago
>Not losing all the work every time your windows manager crashes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37509703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37509703 >remapping keys >Use xinput to change parameters of their input devices (libinput dropped most configuration options present with evdev) Up to the compositor. >Global shortcuts Also up to the compositor. Was added to xdp in https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/main/data/org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.xml https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/main/data... so it's up to the compositor's xdp impl to provide it. It was created by a KDE dev so I assume KDE implements it at least. >tunnelling over ssh https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe
- LtWorf 3y ago
  > Up to the compositor. > Also up to the compositor. Exactly my point! Right there. Thanks.
  - erinnh 3y ago
    What’s your point? You didn’t make it. Before you said that your point was that people tell you you aren’t supposed to do those things. But you are able to remap your keys. Remapping keys has been possible in Wayland for quite a while in any compositor I used. (KDE, Gnome, Sway)
    - LtWorf 3y ago
      Not arbitrary remapping of any key.