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High karma mostly just means you submit a lot of stuff. Age of account is a meaningless metric as well. I like the suggestion I saw weeks ago of just ditching

High karma mostly just means you submit a lot of stuff. Age of account is a meaningless metric as well. I like the suggestion I saw weeks ago of just ditching submission karma. When people have no incentive to automatically or manually dump everything Ars/TC/etc publish then the quality of stories might go up. Edit: found the suggestion, it was by Cletus: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3788875 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3788875

andrewfelix 15y ago
How about karma Avg. then?
- unimpressive 15y ago
  >How about karma Avg. then? Step one: Make new account Step two: Post Techcrunch or similar article guaranteed to hit the front page of HN. Step three: Use newfound insane karma average to upvote crap submissions. Step four: ??? Step five: Profit. I actually like "Remove submission karma.". That should stop the linkbait articles from people who have to have their play money.
  - paulsutter 15y ago
    Remove submission karma is a great idea. Right now the fastest way to get monster karma is to be the first to post a Paul Graham essay.
  - jaredsohn 15y ago
    I'm okay with removing submission karma. There are also a few other options for reducing the influence of submission karma that we should also consider: * Have a karma cap for submissions. It could, for example, only give one karma for every ten upvotes (rounded down to discourage people from posting many articles). There could also be a hard maximum. * Reward less karma if more people submitted the link manually. This gives less karma for popular things such as Paul Graham essays, TechCrunch articles, etc. When other people submit an article, it should still reward the article itself with upvotes, but it would make sense to reward the poster less since it is likely the story would have been posted anyway. These alternatives are better than removing submission karma in that they still reward people for posting interesting content, but are worse in that they make things a little more complicated.
rollypolly 15y ago
This would also reduce duplicates. As for tweaking the "power" of upvotes, I think this would probably have unintended consequences. Like creating an old boys' club perhaps.
ComputerGuru 15y ago
Another vote for ditching submission karma. Unlike comment karma, it has no direct relation between quality and score - esp. as there are no story downvotes.
SeoxyS 15y ago
+1 on making Karma comments-only.

andrewfelix 15y ago

How about karma Avg. then?

unimpressive 15y ago
>How about karma Avg. then? Step one: Make new account Step two: Post Techcrunch or similar article guaranteed to hit the front page of HN. Step three: Use newfound insane karma average to upvote crap submissions. Step four: ??? Step five: Profit. I actually like "Remove submission karma.". That should stop the linkbait articles from people who have to have their play money.
- paulsutter 15y ago
  Remove submission karma is a great idea. Right now the fastest way to get monster karma is to be the first to post a Paul Graham essay.
- jaredsohn 15y ago
  I'm okay with removing submission karma. There are also a few other options for reducing the influence of submission karma that we should also consider: * Have a karma cap for submissions. It could, for example, only give one karma for every ten upvotes (rounded down to discourage people from posting many articles). There could also be a hard maximum. * Reward less karma if more people submitted the link manually. This gives less karma for popular things such as Paul Graham essays, TechCrunch articles, etc. When other people submit an article, it should still reward the article itself with upvotes, but it would make sense to reward the poster less since it is likely the story would have been posted anyway. These alternatives are better than removing submission karma in that they still reward people for posting interesting content, but are worse in that they make things a little more complicated.

rollypolly 15y ago

This would also reduce duplicates. As for tweaking the "power" of upvotes, I think this would probably have unintended consequences. Like creating an old boys' club perhaps.

ComputerGuru 15y ago

Another vote for ditching submission karma. Unlike comment karma, it has no direct relation between quality and score - esp. as there are no story downvotes.

SeoxyS 15y ago

+1 on making Karma comments-only.