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> Didn’t they learn their lesson with the Concorde? What was the lesson?

by wsgeorge 3y ago

constantly 3y ago
No one wants to get to Paris quickly.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  They want to get out of Paris quickly though :)
rafram 3y ago
Cost-agnostic business travelers are not a large enough segment of the market for transatlantic flights to justify flying a plane that only seats business class and costs a lot of money. (Boom says they're targeting $5,000 fares between NYC and London [1], and I bet they'll end up being even higher, if/when it gets off the ground.) [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/16/23308514/american-airlines-boom-supersonic-jet-order https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/16/23308514/american-airline...
- closewith 3y ago
  I think the lesson was that business travellers prefer comfort to speed, as business class funds the entirety of transatlantic passenger aviation. There's plenty of business-class-only flights.
  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    https://www.lacompagnie.com/ https://www.lacompagnie.com/ is the only one I’m aware of. What other company offers business only flights?
  - glitchc 3y ago
    I would say it's the exact opposite, after all planes replaced ships and that NY to London leg is significantly more comfortable on a ship. Heck if I could cut my NY-London time in half, I'd take it, even if I had to give up lie-flat seats.
    - lupire 3y ago
      Hours is different from weeks.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    But what if they could have both? The Concorde was plenty comfortable when it first flew, it's just that it was never replaced. I'm sure boom will offer current business class comforts.
    - nikau 3y ago
      Concorde was very cramped, a longer flight in a first class suite with bed is more appealing, more so now in flight WiFi is a thing so you can work if needed.
- SR2Z 3y ago
  Concorde ran a profit until its last flight, actually. It was retired in expectation of how expensive it would get to maintain; it was one of the few planes so analog that it still had a flight engineer seat, when it was retired.

> Didn’t they learn their lesson with the Concorde? What was the lesson?

constantly 3y ago

No one wants to get to Paris quickly.

wkat4242 3y ago
They want to get out of Paris quickly though :)

rafram 3y ago

Cost-agnostic business travelers are not a large enough segment of the market for transatlantic flights to justify flying a plane that only seats business class and costs a lot of money. (Boom says they're targeting $5,000 fares between NYC and London [1], and I bet they'll end up being even higher, if/when it gets off the ground.) [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/16/23308514/american-airlines-boom-supersonic-jet-order https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/16/23308514/american-airline...

closewith 3y ago
I think the lesson was that business travellers prefer comfort to speed, as business class funds the entirety of transatlantic passenger aviation. There's plenty of business-class-only flights.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  https://www.lacompagnie.com/ https://www.lacompagnie.com/ is the only one I’m aware of. What other company offers business only flights?
- glitchc 3y ago
  I would say it's the exact opposite, after all planes replaced ships and that NY to London leg is significantly more comfortable on a ship. Heck if I could cut my NY-London time in half, I'd take it, even if I had to give up lie-flat seats.
  - lupire 3y ago
    Hours is different from weeks.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  But what if they could have both? The Concorde was plenty comfortable when it first flew, it's just that it was never replaced. I'm sure boom will offer current business class comforts.
  - nikau 3y ago
    Concorde was very cramped, a longer flight in a first class suite with bed is more appealing, more so now in flight WiFi is a thing so you can work if needed.
SR2Z 3y ago
Concorde ran a profit until its last flight, actually. It was retired in expectation of how expensive it would get to maintain; it was one of the few planes so analog that it still had a flight engineer seat, when it was retired.