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The role of tech is no different than any other industry. The problems were created by politicians making bad decisions. Easier to blame tech than fix things.

namuol 3y ago
I can’t claim to understand how things got to be the way they are, but grossly oversimplifying the issue like this is the surest way to be wrong about it. > The role of tech is no different than any other industry. I agree with this. Doesn’t mean industry shares no blame.
- threatofrain 3y ago
  It makes no sense for the tech industry to take the blame unless you want tech to take up government responsibilities. The tech industry wants more housing and frequently loses battles with local government. Do we want a tech industry which is capable of outweighing governments?
  - cogman10 3y ago
    The blame ultimately does rest on the local government. The solution to a lot of problems here are more high density housing. The way you get that is taxes and eminent domain to tear down and rebuild. But that will weaken current SF residents political power, so they fight against it. Pushing labor out of the city removes their power to affect change. The only point I'd bring up about the tech industry is the SF residents putting up these barriers are often old time tech folks that "made it". I think Seattle has some of the same issues, but at least seams to be handling things a lot better.
    - Redoubts 3y ago
      > The way you get that is taxes and eminent domain to tear down and rebuild. Can we try not making it illegal to build densely on the property you own first? The government doesn’t need to do anything; no tax breaks or incentives. It just needs to stop taking the opinion that any amount of profit taken by a real estate developer is necessarily immoral.
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- cheriot 3y ago
  Responsibility (and blame) goes to the people that have the power to change the outcome. The municipality controls housing and homeless policy. The state controls the mental healthcare system. The feds allowed the opium epidemic. If we want to focus on solutions, talking about the tech industry is a distraction.

namuol 3y ago

I can’t claim to understand how things got to be the way they are, but grossly oversimplifying the issue like this is the surest way to be wrong about it. > The role of tech is no different than any other industry. I agree with this. Doesn’t mean industry shares no blame.

threatofrain 3y ago
It makes no sense for the tech industry to take the blame unless you want tech to take up government responsibilities. The tech industry wants more housing and frequently loses battles with local government. Do we want a tech industry which is capable of outweighing governments?
- cogman10 3y ago
  The blame ultimately does rest on the local government. The solution to a lot of problems here are more high density housing. The way you get that is taxes and eminent domain to tear down and rebuild. But that will weaken current SF residents political power, so they fight against it. Pushing labor out of the city removes their power to affect change. The only point I'd bring up about the tech industry is the SF residents putting up these barriers are often old time tech folks that "made it". I think Seattle has some of the same issues, but at least seams to be handling things a lot better.
  - Redoubts 3y ago
    > The way you get that is taxes and eminent domain to tear down and rebuild. Can we try not making it illegal to build densely on the property you own first? The government doesn’t need to do anything; no tax breaks or incentives. It just needs to stop taking the opinion that any amount of profit taken by a real estate developer is necessarily immoral.
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cheriot 3y ago
Responsibility (and blame) goes to the people that have the power to change the outcome. The municipality controls housing and homeless policy. The state controls the mental healthcare system. The feds allowed the opium epidemic. If we want to focus on solutions, talking about the tech industry is a distraction.