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You realize that off-loading overwhelmed parents even a bit is already a massive step in positive direction for literally everybody including companies and taxm

You realize that off-loading overwhelmed parents even a bit is already a massive step in positive direction for literally everybody including companies and taxman, and kindergartens can help a lot. You can be much happier and better parent when rested rather than being semi-constantly on the verge of breakdown. Who hasn't walked this valley with at least 2 kids can't really comprehend the topic appropriately. Apart maybe of those suffering long term insomnia combined with some serious stressors in their lives.

seec 3y ago
That would also be true if every family had a parent that mostly had free time. Then you just need to know more than one family in the world et voilà! It would cost way less money to everyone, while allowing more diversity and more actual ressource to be used for the child instead of stupid bureaucracy... But it looks like you are deep into communist propaganda, as if a third-party institution run by a government would be empowering anything instead of completely destroying everything, including the society it stands on...
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  No need for baseless insults, that's primitive behavior. I actually grew up under communism and hate it with passion since I saw first hand how it destroyed lives of my parents and grandparents. Something spoiled western kids with unbelievably easy life like apparently you will never comprehend. Rest of your post doesn't make much sense, you clearly have no clue about topic discussed.
  - seec 3y ago
    So, you actually admit that your viewpoint is clearly corrupted by communism! No matter how much you say you hate it, it is bound to leave marks in how you think. So now that we have determined that I was actually spot on and that it wasn't an insult at all, we can deal with your insult; ironically you accuse me of insulting you and in the same sentence call me a primitive. Then you follow with insults on spoiled westen kid, yet you have no clue how much I had to work in my youth nor have any idea of how much collectivism I had to suffer. It turns out you do not need to live in a fully declared communist country to have a similar experience but since you do not want to understand and instead let your emotions talk, you cannot make that realization. If there is primitive behavior in this conversation, it is you unable to handle the emotions caused by the truth. I am sorry you were hurt by my words but it doesn't seem like you are still defending communist ideals even though you are out of it. Not surprising, Stockholm syndrome and all that...

seec 3y ago

That would also be true if every family had a parent that mostly had free time. Then you just need to know more than one family in the world et voilà! It would cost way less money to everyone, while allowing more diversity and more actual ressource to be used for the child instead of stupid bureaucracy... But it looks like you are deep into communist propaganda, as if a third-party institution run by a government would be empowering anything instead of completely destroying everything, including the society it stands on...

saiya-jin 3y ago
No need for baseless insults, that's primitive behavior. I actually grew up under communism and hate it with passion since I saw first hand how it destroyed lives of my parents and grandparents. Something spoiled western kids with unbelievably easy life like apparently you will never comprehend. Rest of your post doesn't make much sense, you clearly have no clue about topic discussed.
- seec 3y ago
  So, you actually admit that your viewpoint is clearly corrupted by communism! No matter how much you say you hate it, it is bound to leave marks in how you think. So now that we have determined that I was actually spot on and that it wasn't an insult at all, we can deal with your insult; ironically you accuse me of insulting you and in the same sentence call me a primitive. Then you follow with insults on spoiled westen kid, yet you have no clue how much I had to work in my youth nor have any idea of how much collectivism I had to suffer. It turns out you do not need to live in a fully declared communist country to have a similar experience but since you do not want to understand and instead let your emotions talk, you cannot make that realization. If there is primitive behavior in this conversation, it is you unable to handle the emotions caused by the truth. I am sorry you were hurt by my words but it doesn't seem like you are still defending communist ideals even though you are out of it. Not surprising, Stockholm syndrome and all that...