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No, Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android and ChromeOS are all much more secure.

grayhatter 3y ago
Android and chromeos are Linux based, so it's very interesting that 2 of your 4 most secure operating systems are linux. But this is a perfect example of how the premise itself is fundemntally clickbait. The problem of insecurity is unrelated to Linux, but the execution and privilege model of userspace.
- ogogmad 3y ago
  For that reason, TFA said Desktop Linux, in order to avoid "pedanticism [sic]".
  - grayhatter 3y ago
    except chromeos is also desktop linux... unless desktop has a different definition than the one I know?
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Android and ChromeOS use the Linux kernel, they aren't GNU/Linux, as the termux folks are certainly aware.
- hollerith 3y ago
  I meant that Linux-based systems other than Android, ChromeOS and Qubes are the least secure of the common OS options.
  - grayhatter 3y ago
    Except they're not. They're the most permissive by default, maybe. But they're not the least secure. If you put an assa abloy on your door, and then elect not to lock it. That doesn't mean assa abloy is the least secure lock. Windows has a reputation for being insecure because if you try to keep someone out, they can still get in. This article was written on the idea that Linux is insecure, because when you don't try to keep someone out, they can get in.
    - nolist_policy 3y ago
      Not quite, you can secure and lock down Windows too, the problem is that it isn't secure by default. And 90% of Admins don't bother with securing it other than sprinkling anti-virus on top. Android, ChromeOS and Qubes are secure by default. Though I wouldn't trust a novice user with QubesOS.
calamari4065 3y ago
Windows will: spy on you, serve you advertisements, reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, install software without consent, report your browsing behavior to advertisers, literally steal your email password, upload all your files to one drive without consent, forcibly change your default browser, insert aggressive ads for Edge in front of the Firefox download page, show you clickbait tabloid articles in the taskbar. Honestly I'm not sure how you can consider any of that secure.
- tester756 3y ago
  >spy on you, serve you advertisements this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. Security is about (among other) CVEs, not ads. >reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, bullshit >upload all your files to one drive without consent without consent? did onedrive magically figure out your MS credentials? >steal your email password what?
  - calamari4065 3y ago
    Check the recent headlines. Windows is pushing user files to one drive and stealing email passwords to proxy your email account on Microsoft servers. >>reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, >bullshit Honestly baffled how you can deny this. Windows rebooting on its own is one of the most defining features. >this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. Bullshit.
    - tester756 3y ago
      >Honestly baffled how you can deny this. Windows rebooting on its own is one of the most defining features. There's only scenario where I can imagine Windows rebooting ""on its own"" You've scheduled an update or you're delaying update for long peroid of time? >>this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. >Bullshit. How so? in the principle ads aren't security issues (unless badly implemented) >Check the recent headlines. Windows is pushing user files to one drive and stealing email passwords to proxy your email account on Microsoft servers. I've literally googled: "windows stealing email passwords" and the very first thing is article from 2016 and the other are about Malware/Scam, so how what article are you talking about?

Android and chromeos are Linux based, so it's very interesting that 2 of your 4 most secure operating systems are linux. But this is a perfect example of how the premise itself is fundemntally clickbait. The problem of insecurity is unrelated to Linux, but the execution and privilege model of userspace.

ogogmad 3y ago
For that reason, TFA said Desktop Linux, in order to avoid "pedanticism [sic]".
- grayhatter 3y ago
  except chromeos is also desktop linux... unless desktop has a different definition than the one I know?
pjmlp 3y ago
Android and ChromeOS use the Linux kernel, they aren't GNU/Linux, as the termux folks are certainly aware.
hollerith 3y ago
I meant that Linux-based systems other than Android, ChromeOS and Qubes are the least secure of the common OS options.
- grayhatter 3y ago
  Except they're not. They're the most permissive by default, maybe. But they're not the least secure. If you put an assa abloy on your door, and then elect not to lock it. That doesn't mean assa abloy is the least secure lock. Windows has a reputation for being insecure because if you try to keep someone out, they can still get in. This article was written on the idea that Linux is insecure, because when you don't try to keep someone out, they can get in.
  - nolist_policy 3y ago
    Not quite, you can secure and lock down Windows too, the problem is that it isn't secure by default. And 90% of Admins don't bother with securing it other than sprinkling anti-virus on top. Android, ChromeOS and Qubes are secure by default. Though I wouldn't trust a novice user with QubesOS.

calamari4065 3y ago

Windows will: spy on you, serve you advertisements, reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, install software without consent, report your browsing behavior to advertisers, literally steal your email password, upload all your files to one drive without consent, forcibly change your default browser, insert aggressive ads for Edge in front of the Firefox download page, show you clickbait tabloid articles in the taskbar. Honestly I'm not sure how you can consider any of that secure.

tester756 3y ago
>spy on you, serve you advertisements this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. Security is about (among other) CVEs, not ads. >reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, bullshit >upload all your files to one drive without consent without consent? did onedrive magically figure out your MS credentials? >steal your email password what?
- calamari4065 3y ago
  Check the recent headlines. Windows is pushing user files to one drive and stealing email passwords to proxy your email account on Microsoft servers. >>reboot autonomously, destroying your open work, >bullshit Honestly baffled how you can deny this. Windows rebooting on its own is one of the most defining features. >this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. Bullshit.
  - tester756 3y ago
    >Honestly baffled how you can deny this. Windows rebooting on its own is one of the most defining features. There's only scenario where I can imagine Windows rebooting ""on its own"" You've scheduled an update or you're delaying update for long peroid of time? >>this, just like many other points is not security, sorry. >Bullshit. How so? in the principle ads aren't security issues (unless badly implemented) >Check the recent headlines. Windows is pushing user files to one drive and stealing email passwords to proxy your email account on Microsoft servers. I've literally googled: "windows stealing email passwords" and the very first thing is article from 2016 and the other are about Malware/Scam, so how what article are you talking about?