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Great topic but aren't we still protesting reddit, or has that just fell off the radar?

by Physkal 3y ago

shp0ngle 3y ago
Even the subs protesting reddit forgot that
- Physkal 3y ago
  I'm just amazed at our inability to keep to our word, why would any company care to reconsider their decisions if even highly informed and agitated consumers go right back to them?
  - cinntaile 3y ago
    A vocal minority cares, the rest actually doesn't care enough. Companies obviously know this.
- covercash 3y ago
  No, Reddit threatened to replace all mods who didn’t open back up. Since a lot of mods spent sometimes upwards of a decade building their communities, they preferred to reopen with barebones effort rather than hand it over to people with zero experience (who were likely looking to exploit the communities for personal/financial gain). I left mine closed as long as possible, got tons of hate DMs and people harassing me in various other subreddits, then eventually opened back up with one additional mod who does all of the actual moderation. I check modmail every other day or so through old.reddit to make sure things are functioning and to show some mod activity so I can’t be removed… just in case Reddit doesn’t suck at some point in the future. I’ve commented 3 times in the last 4 months in subreddits totally unrelated to the one I “run”. I used to try and reply to every single post in my community, which was a pretty easy task in Apollo. If Apollo was like running through ankle deep water, the official app is like trudging through a waist deep swamp. It’s awful and I hate it. How are reddit employees not totally ashamed of the work they put out and embarrassed by the company they work for?
acheron 3y ago
I definitely quit using it. Do people use the official app and watch the ads and drink verification cans and whatever?
- dlp211 3y ago
  I def use Reddit a lot less than I used to, but I caved and installed the official app. But now I use it sparingly because it such a shitty experience.
  - Physkal 3y ago
    To be honest I tried to go the federated universe route and I just could not get past the federated gates before I found a home. I tried to join a beehaw instance and got denied access for some reason. Felt like an orphan ever since, especially since google reddit seems to be the only way to get good answers out of Google. I hope it does get more user friendly as there are people of all expertise that may not even be able to get into a federated group.
  - okdood64 3y ago
    I pay $4/mo for Narwhal 2 and it's pretty great. (I used to use the original Narwhal before the subscription pricing which they had to axe.)
- lelandbatey 3y ago
  Same; my 13 year old account is now dormant/dead. If I have to use the official app to use the site, why use Reddit at all? I had a decade of RiF/Apollo perfection, taken away from me and all I'm offered is an official app that's not as good and covered with ads? Nope, still haven't gone back. It's been nice, I'm glad to be rid of it.
- phubbard 3y ago
  Having paid for and enjoyed Narwhal and Apollo, I really hated the official app. After some digging, I found https://github.com/lo-cafe/winston https://github.com/lo-cafe/winston and that's working for me. It's not simple - you have to generate your own Reddit app id and secret, be able to Xcode from source and have a valid Apple ID to install the IPA, but it's worth it to me to spite the enshittified app.
probably_wrong 3y ago
I deleted my account and only lurk when it shows up on my search as a reasonable answer for a complicated question. Fun fact: I only realized this week that my Advent of Code Login was Reddit's OAuth.
dist-epoch 3y ago
I was mostly a mod protest, not a user protest. But mods get their power from their subscriber count (like influencers). So when users started complaining that they don't care about the protest, and more importantly, started looking for alternative related subreddits which were not part of the protest, the mods backed down and stopped the protest, fearing that they are loosing their power (subscriber count).
kergonath 3y ago
I guess it depends on who “we” is. Personally, I have seen a lot of comments about how spez sucks (I tend to agree) and everyone should delete their account (some of the subreddits are invaluable and closing all of them would either dissolve a lot of niche communities or just displace them to Facebook, which I would consider far worse than Reddit). But I don’t recall any consensus about not linking to Reddit. I would disagree, in any case.

Great topic but aren't we still protesting reddit, or has that just fell off the radar?

shp0ngle 3y ago

Even the subs protesting reddit forgot that

Physkal 3y ago
I'm just amazed at our inability to keep to our word, why would any company care to reconsider their decisions if even highly informed and agitated consumers go right back to them?
- cinntaile 3y ago
  A vocal minority cares, the rest actually doesn't care enough. Companies obviously know this.
covercash 3y ago
No, Reddit threatened to replace all mods who didn’t open back up. Since a lot of mods spent sometimes upwards of a decade building their communities, they preferred to reopen with barebones effort rather than hand it over to people with zero experience (who were likely looking to exploit the communities for personal/financial gain). I left mine closed as long as possible, got tons of hate DMs and people harassing me in various other subreddits, then eventually opened back up with one additional mod who does all of the actual moderation. I check modmail every other day or so through old.reddit to make sure things are functioning and to show some mod activity so I can’t be removed… just in case Reddit doesn’t suck at some point in the future. I’ve commented 3 times in the last 4 months in subreddits totally unrelated to the one I “run”. I used to try and reply to every single post in my community, which was a pretty easy task in Apollo. If Apollo was like running through ankle deep water, the official app is like trudging through a waist deep swamp. It’s awful and I hate it. How are reddit employees not totally ashamed of the work they put out and embarrassed by the company they work for?

acheron 3y ago

I definitely quit using it. Do people use the official app and watch the ads and drink verification cans and whatever?

dlp211 3y ago
I def use Reddit a lot less than I used to, but I caved and installed the official app. But now I use it sparingly because it such a shitty experience.
- Physkal 3y ago
  To be honest I tried to go the federated universe route and I just could not get past the federated gates before I found a home. I tried to join a beehaw instance and got denied access for some reason. Felt like an orphan ever since, especially since google reddit seems to be the only way to get good answers out of Google. I hope it does get more user friendly as there are people of all expertise that may not even be able to get into a federated group.
- okdood64 3y ago
  I pay $4/mo for Narwhal 2 and it's pretty great. (I used to use the original Narwhal before the subscription pricing which they had to axe.)
lelandbatey 3y ago
Same; my 13 year old account is now dormant/dead. If I have to use the official app to use the site, why use Reddit at all? I had a decade of RiF/Apollo perfection, taken away from me and all I'm offered is an official app that's not as good and covered with ads? Nope, still haven't gone back. It's been nice, I'm glad to be rid of it.
phubbard 3y ago
Having paid for and enjoyed Narwhal and Apollo, I really hated the official app. After some digging, I found https://github.com/lo-cafe/winston https://github.com/lo-cafe/winston and that's working for me. It's not simple - you have to generate your own Reddit app id and secret, be able to Xcode from source and have a valid Apple ID to install the IPA, but it's worth it to me to spite the enshittified app.

probably_wrong 3y ago

I deleted my account and only lurk when it shows up on my search as a reasonable answer for a complicated question. Fun fact: I only realized this week that my Advent of Code Login was Reddit's OAuth.

dist-epoch 3y ago

I was mostly a mod protest, not a user protest. But mods get their power from their subscriber count (like influencers). So when users started complaining that they don't care about the protest, and more importantly, started looking for alternative related subreddits which were not part of the protest, the mods backed down and stopped the protest, fearing that they are loosing their power (subscriber count).

kergonath 3y ago

I guess it depends on who “we” is. Personally, I have seen a lot of comments about how spez sucks (I tend to agree) and everyone should delete their account (some of the subreddits are invaluable and closing all of them would either dissolve a lot of niche communities or just displace them to Facebook, which I would consider far worse than Reddit). But I don’t recall any consensus about not linking to Reddit. I would disagree, in any case.