5 ms·
I’m thinking about everyone being more involved with kids. Not just parents of young children.
by treespace09 3y ago
I’m thinking about everyone being more involved with kids. Not just parents of young children.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoLots of folks don’t want kids or to be involved with them too, another important consideration.
- em-bee 3y agothose that do not want to be involved with kids would obviously not choose to participate in such an environment, so they are out of the picture.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoHas to be explicitly said, lots of folks expect a village without asking if the village consented towards the effort (n=1). Managing and openly communicating expectations derisks disappointment and suboptimal outcomes.
- throwaway22032 3y agoNot wanting to be a parent is one thing, but people who don't want to be involved with kids need to work on themselves, that's a deeply antisocial trait - your own existence depended on everyone around you being involved with you to some degree.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoThat is an opinion, not a fact. Freedom of association and to be happy can include not interacting with children you choose not to, and optimizing for happiness is important (versus a social contract requiring otherwise). No one will optimize for your own happiness besides you. I have kids, but fully respect people who don’t care for or want to avoid time and interaction with kids. I respect their boundaries, that is what I advocate for here. I’ve had over a decade of therapy, so I’m fairly confident in my position on the topic.
- em-bee 3y agoit is one thing to ask someone who doesn't want to deal with kids for help taking care of them, but quite another to expect them to tolerate kids and behave in a manner that gives the kids space they need. (like not smoking near kids, etc) in a city i can't choose my neighbors, but some neighbors don't like kids and will complain if they are to noisy because they are playing soccer in the yard, to the point that they force the building management to disallow it, which then takes a lawsuit from the parents to remove that rule because such a rule is in fact illegal since kids playing is natural had has to be tolerated. if someone feels that kids playing infringes their boundaries then they do need an attitude adjustment.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoAgreed. Kids need the space to develop as you mentioned, and it’s somewhat trivial to determine where to live to avoid children using granular census and school availability data if desired.
- em-bee 3y agoit’s somewhat trivial to determine where to live to avoid children given the discussions of how much more housing most cities need, i actually think this is not trivial at all. not wanting to live near children pretty much comes down to not living near people.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- toomuchtodo 3y agoI will think on how to improve this.
- em-bee 3y agoi am not exactly sure where you are going with this, so i am curious what you have in mind.