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I'm the main developer behind mystery-o-matic, happy to take questions and feedback regarding its engine here!

by galapago 3y ago

MrLeap 3y ago
This is cool. What was your motivation?
- galapago 3y ago
  I wanted to create an alternative to murdle.com (which is very good, btw!) and learn a little bit of about web technology
  - HPsquared 3y ago
    While we're at it, what were the means and opportunity?
    - galapago 3y ago
      What do you mean exactly?
      - buzzy_hacker 3y ago
        They’re joking. The cliché in criminal investigations is the suspect needs means, motive, and opportunity to commit the crime. You gave motive, so means and opportunity remain.
        galapago 3y ago
        Thanks!, I know that cliché, but I tend to take comments too literal :)
LVB 3y ago
Can you explain a bit more how Ethereum fits in “for obtaining a random mystery prompt and its solution”?
- galapago 3y ago
  Ethereum as a platform is not really used, but Solidity smart contracts simulated inside a testing tool. Check my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38422232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38422232
  - GlassOwAter 3y ago
    Would it fairly easily port to a blockchain? And would you be interested in bringing it to Evmos?
    - galapago 3y ago
      Depends on what you want exactly, but I think it should be straightforward. Please use the contact form so we can continue this conversation: https://forms.gle/dvA4Wr8LiuHFmDZN7 https://forms.gle/dvA4Wr8LiuHFmDZN7
foundry27 3y ago
Really cool experience! :) Having been cheerfully awarded the sleuth-o-matic rank of Barely Conscious (the murderer was was clear, the precise weapon+time wasn’t) I was wondering: is the mystery generator implemented in such a way that there’s enough “metagaming cues” in the clues to allow someone clever to get a good score on ALL generated mysteries? For context: my partner correctly solved today’s mystery seven clues earlier than I did, and she explained that her answer was based on the fact that that 1. In literature certain weapons are predominantly associated with killers of particular genders, and 2. Killers will try to minimize their time spent at crime scenes to reduce the risk of detection, so if the murderer was found there, it’s probable that the murder was recent. I was suitably impressed, but I’d be curious to know if human psychology and behavior patterns in literature are actually taken into account for the mysteries.
- galapago 3y ago
  > Having been cheerfully awarded the sleuth-o-matic rank of Barely Conscious (the murderer was was clear, the precise weapon+time wasn’t) I was wondering: is the mystery generator implemented in such a way that there’s enough “metagaming cues” in the clues to allow someone clever to get a good score on ALL generated mysteries? Well, the mystery generation is stochastic (where some of them will be more complex and difficult, while other ones are simpler) and the scoring is still under development (it usually very difficult to get a good score). Expect some changes in the near future to make the score more adaptative and fair. > For context: my partner correctly solved today’s mystery seven clues earlier than I did, and she explained that her answer was based on the fact that that 1. In literature certain weapons are predominantly associated with killers of particular genders, and 2. Killers will try to minimize their time spent at crime scenes to reduce the risk of detection, so if the murderer was found there, it’s probable that the murder was recent. > I was suitably impressed, but I’d be curious to know if human psychology and behavior patterns in literature are actually taken into account for the mysteries. Assumption 1 is incorrect, all the weapons are randomly assigned so it was a lucky guess (however, it is an interesting one to make, so I will think about it to include it in the future..). Assumption 2 is .. actually correct. The mystery generation has a "minimization" procedure, where the actual input (the action from every agent) are reduced while keeping the murder mystery. This will indirectly, tend to make this assumption true. Thanks for your feedback, it was really interesting.
rmccue 3y ago
I'm not sure exactly what happened, but there's definitely some sort of bug - I entered what I was certain was the correct info and got the "incorrect" phrase. Rechecked about 100% times using all clues and still the same. Switched to a different browser and entered the same answers and... it said correct. Might be because I clicked through to either the sleuth-o-meter or the how to play and then hit back? I also filled in the example table on the how-to-play. (Also, glad I'm not going crazy!)
- galapago 3y ago
  I suspect there is a bug in the selector. I need to investigate. Thanks for the report!

I'm the main developer behind mystery-o-matic, happy to take questions and feedback regarding its engine here!

MrLeap 3y ago

This is cool. What was your motivation?

galapago 3y ago
I wanted to create an alternative to murdle.com (which is very good, btw!) and learn a little bit of about web technology
- HPsquared 3y ago
  While we're at it, what were the means and opportunity?
  - galapago 3y ago
    What do you mean exactly?
    - buzzy_hacker 3y ago
      They’re joking. The cliché in criminal investigations is the suspect needs means, motive, and opportunity to commit the crime. You gave motive, so means and opportunity remain.
      - galapago 3y ago
        Thanks!, I know that cliché, but I tend to take comments too literal :)

LVB 3y ago

Can you explain a bit more how Ethereum fits in “for obtaining a random mystery prompt and its solution”?

galapago 3y ago
Ethereum as a platform is not really used, but Solidity smart contracts simulated inside a testing tool. Check my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38422232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38422232
- GlassOwAter 3y ago
  Would it fairly easily port to a blockchain? And would you be interested in bringing it to Evmos?
  - galapago 3y ago
    Depends on what you want exactly, but I think it should be straightforward. Please use the contact form so we can continue this conversation: https://forms.gle/dvA4Wr8LiuHFmDZN7 https://forms.gle/dvA4Wr8LiuHFmDZN7

foundry27 3y ago

Really cool experience! :) Having been cheerfully awarded the sleuth-o-matic rank of Barely Conscious (the murderer was was clear, the precise weapon+time wasn’t) I was wondering: is the mystery generator implemented in such a way that there’s enough “metagaming cues” in the clues to allow someone clever to get a good score on ALL generated mysteries? For context: my partner correctly solved today’s mystery seven clues earlier than I did, and she explained that her answer was based on the fact that that 1. In literature certain weapons are predominantly associated with killers of particular genders, and 2. Killers will try to minimize their time spent at crime scenes to reduce the risk of detection, so if the murderer was found there, it’s probable that the murder was recent. I was suitably impressed, but I’d be curious to know if human psychology and behavior patterns in literature are actually taken into account for the mysteries.

galapago 3y ago
> Having been cheerfully awarded the sleuth-o-matic rank of Barely Conscious (the murderer was was clear, the precise weapon+time wasn’t) I was wondering: is the mystery generator implemented in such a way that there’s enough “metagaming cues” in the clues to allow someone clever to get a good score on ALL generated mysteries? Well, the mystery generation is stochastic (where some of them will be more complex and difficult, while other ones are simpler) and the scoring is still under development (it usually very difficult to get a good score). Expect some changes in the near future to make the score more adaptative and fair. > For context: my partner correctly solved today’s mystery seven clues earlier than I did, and she explained that her answer was based on the fact that that 1. In literature certain weapons are predominantly associated with killers of particular genders, and 2. Killers will try to minimize their time spent at crime scenes to reduce the risk of detection, so if the murderer was found there, it’s probable that the murder was recent. > I was suitably impressed, but I’d be curious to know if human psychology and behavior patterns in literature are actually taken into account for the mysteries. Assumption 1 is incorrect, all the weapons are randomly assigned so it was a lucky guess (however, it is an interesting one to make, so I will think about it to include it in the future..). Assumption 2 is .. actually correct. The mystery generation has a "minimization" procedure, where the actual input (the action from every agent) are reduced while keeping the murder mystery. This will indirectly, tend to make this assumption true. Thanks for your feedback, it was really interesting.

rmccue 3y ago

I'm not sure exactly what happened, but there's definitely some sort of bug - I entered what I was certain was the correct info and got the "incorrect" phrase. Rechecked about 100% times using all clues and still the same. Switched to a different browser and entered the same answers and... it said correct. Might be because I clicked through to either the sleuth-o-meter or the how to play and then hit back? I also filled in the example table on the how-to-play. (Also, glad I'm not going crazy!)

galapago 3y ago
I suspect there is a bug in the selector. I need to investigate. Thanks for the report!