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Well sometimes studies show coffee is good for your brain so I’m relieved to find this outcome because I don’t drink coffee and try to avoid caffeine daily.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Well sometimes studies show coffee is good for your brain Why can't it be both good and bad for you? Water is also good for you but you can also die from drinking too much. Same with oxygen. Anything that's good for you in moderation, can kill you when consumed in excess. The article doesn't say that any amount of coffee is bad for you, it says "chronic caffeine consumption is bad for you" which again, should be common sense. Chronic consumption of anything is generally bad for you. It may very well be that light to moderate consumption could be beneficial at the same time as chronic being bad.
- mnky9800n 3y ago
  Water is good for you but you shouldn't breathe it. Air is good for you but you shouldn't eat it.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    You can also die of drinking too much water, not just drowning in it. Water intoxication is a thing. So is breathing in concentrated oxygen.
    - mnky9800n 3y ago
      I was agreeing with you
- Shaanie 3y ago
  Chronic just means consistently for a long time, not the amount. There's lots of things for which chronic consumption is not bad (like pretty much everything considered healthy).
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >Chronic just means consistently for a long time, not the amount. So if you drink 0.5mg of caffeine a day you're now a chronic user just as those who drink 300mg a day? Sorry but that's bullshit. How can you draw any scientific conclusion without focusing on the most important aspect which is the dose of caffeine. The word chronic alone doesn't mean jack here, when the daily does is all that matters.
vjk800 3y ago
Good and bad effects are not mutually exclusive. Coffee can, at the same time, be good for you on one metric and bad on another. The same for different time scales; coffee might be good for you on short-to-medium time scales, but bad on very long time scales.
- Qem 3y ago
  Perhaps brain plasticity has its own downsides. Otherwise, why evolution would make us lose a lot of it once we reach adulthood? If there was no downsides, keeping a plastic brain for the whole life would be very adaptive. A gotcha must hide somewhere here.
  - mrob 3y ago
    Before the Industrial Revolution, people didn't see so much change in their daily lives. Perhaps the risk of learning something maladaptive outweighed the potential benefits back then.
    - Qem 3y ago
      Well, since agriculture fixed people in the same plot of land for their whole lives, sure. But before that there was nomadism. People moved from one area to another frequently. I think a lot of learning was necessary to map and adjust to new territories. So, I'm not so sure potential maladaptative learning explains everything.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>Well sometimes studies show coffee is good for your brain Why can't it be both good and bad for you? Water is also good for you but you can also die from drinking too much. Same with oxygen. Anything that's good for you in moderation, can kill you when consumed in excess. The article doesn't say that any amount of coffee is bad for you, it says "chronic caffeine consumption is bad for you" which again, should be common sense. Chronic consumption of anything is generally bad for you. It may very well be that light to moderate consumption could be beneficial at the same time as chronic being bad.

mnky9800n 3y ago
Water is good for you but you shouldn't breathe it. Air is good for you but you shouldn't eat it.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  You can also die of drinking too much water, not just drowning in it. Water intoxication is a thing. So is breathing in concentrated oxygen.
  - mnky9800n 3y ago
    I was agreeing with you
Shaanie 3y ago
Chronic just means consistently for a long time, not the amount. There's lots of things for which chronic consumption is not bad (like pretty much everything considered healthy).
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Chronic just means consistently for a long time, not the amount. So if you drink 0.5mg of caffeine a day you're now a chronic user just as those who drink 300mg a day? Sorry but that's bullshit. How can you draw any scientific conclusion without focusing on the most important aspect which is the dose of caffeine. The word chronic alone doesn't mean jack here, when the daily does is all that matters.

vjk800 3y ago

Good and bad effects are not mutually exclusive. Coffee can, at the same time, be good for you on one metric and bad on another. The same for different time scales; coffee might be good for you on short-to-medium time scales, but bad on very long time scales.

Qem 3y ago
Perhaps brain plasticity has its own downsides. Otherwise, why evolution would make us lose a lot of it once we reach adulthood? If there was no downsides, keeping a plastic brain for the whole life would be very adaptive. A gotcha must hide somewhere here.
- mrob 3y ago
  Before the Industrial Revolution, people didn't see so much change in their daily lives. Perhaps the risk of learning something maladaptive outweighed the potential benefits back then.
  - Qem 3y ago
    Well, since agriculture fixed people in the same plot of land for their whole lives, sure. But before that there was nomadism. People moved from one area to another frequently. I think a lot of learning was necessary to map and adjust to new territories. So, I'm not so sure potential maladaptative learning explains everything.