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Right now humans are quite shit at translation of natural panguage into code. Other humans are shit at stating their requirements in any language at all. Don’t

Right now humans are quite shit at translation of natural panguage into code. Other humans are shit at stating their requirements in any language at all. Don’t keep your hopes high.

valine 3y ago
GPT-4 can write html from a messy napkin sketch. These models won’t need formal requirements. “I’m having a problem with A, B and C” will likely be all the model needs from you. Your argument was very common and quite persuasive two years ago. Not so much today.
LoganDark 3y ago
https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/25/a-very-comprehensive-and-precise-spec https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/25/a-very-comprehensi...
- valine 3y ago
  This 2016 comic failed to predict GPTs. It turns out the same model that writes your code can also write the specification. I don’t blame the author, it’s nearly impossible to predict future technology. Pretending that GPTs don’t exist on the other hand, now that’s just silly.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    I think what's more likely to happen is that people will be able to turn a conversation into code instead of just a problem statement. In fact, ChatGPT already does that, although you still need to have some skill in order to properly integrate and test the code that it gives you.
    - valine 3y ago
      Sure, the more information you give the model the better. While our current models generate imperfect code, GPT4 code is much more usable out of the box than GPT3.5 code. If that trend continues we will absolutely get to the point where mistakes are the exception not the rule.
      - LoganDark 3y ago
        I wonder if once (better) multimodal models are a thing, a model might actually be able to close the feedback loop itself. It won't magically generate a working product the first time but it might be able to test it and iterate on it automatically, depending on what you're trying to do. You then just have to make sure it's iterating on the thing you actually want.
        WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
        This is also the moment you should start to take into account the likelihood that you are unnecessary.
        LoganDark 3y ago
        I could die and the world would be completely indifferent.

Right now humans are quite shit at translation of natural panguage into code. Other humans are shit at stating their requirements in any language at all. Don’t keep your hopes high.

valine 3y ago

GPT-4 can write html from a messy napkin sketch. These models won’t need formal requirements. “I’m having a problem with A, B and C” will likely be all the model needs from you. Your argument was very common and quite persuasive two years ago. Not so much today.

LoganDark 3y ago

https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/25/a-very-comprehensive-and-precise-spec https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/25/a-very-comprehensi...

valine 3y ago
This 2016 comic failed to predict GPTs. It turns out the same model that writes your code can also write the specification. I don’t blame the author, it’s nearly impossible to predict future technology. Pretending that GPTs don’t exist on the other hand, now that’s just silly.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  I think what's more likely to happen is that people will be able to turn a conversation into code instead of just a problem statement. In fact, ChatGPT already does that, although you still need to have some skill in order to properly integrate and test the code that it gives you.
  - valine 3y ago
    Sure, the more information you give the model the better. While our current models generate imperfect code, GPT4 code is much more usable out of the box than GPT3.5 code. If that trend continues we will absolutely get to the point where mistakes are the exception not the rule.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      I wonder if once (better) multimodal models are a thing, a model might actually be able to close the feedback loop itself. It won't magically generate a working product the first time but it might be able to test it and iterate on it automatically, depending on what you're trying to do. You then just have to make sure it's iterating on the thing you actually want.
      - WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
        This is also the moment you should start to take into account the likelihood that you are unnecessary.
        LoganDark 3y ago
        I could die and the world would be completely indifferent.