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I was just pointing out that there is someone who wanted $25k upfront and here we have someone who will do the work for free. That's all, just context. And sin
by CWIZO 15y ago
I was just pointing out that there is someone who wanted $25k upfront and here we have someone who will do the work for free. That's all, just context.
And since you mentioned it, $44k is a two full years salary where I live, so excuse me if I think that's a bit much for a installer script.
Other than that, I have no interest in this since I'm not a RoR developer nor am I planning on becoming one. Like I said, I just wanted to provide context.
- tptacek 15y ago5 months is a short waterfall dev cycle. Allocating one dev to "best possible OSX support for our dev platform" is a totally reasonable thing to slot into a cycle. But since you don't know what you're talking about, I'm left wondering why you bothered to comment on this thread. What context could you possibly have to offer? The level of irrational behavior dollar signs generate on HN is baffling.
- CWIZO 15y agoSorry I really have nothing to say to you since you apparently have some false assumptions about me and ignore what I write and I can't have a conversation that way.
- bmelton 15y agoThere may or may not have been someone willing to do it for free, but that doesn't invalidate the effort Yehuda is willing to put in, or the price he has attached to it. Once upon a time, my neighbor brought me a cake that they had made. It was fantastic. They weren't a professional baker, but could likely have sold the recipe to that cake, as I enjoyed it immensely. Does this now mean that all other cakes aren't worth it? If I go to the grocery store, can I just walk out with a cake because "someone else is willing to do it for free"? Obviously, the answer is that I can't. You're perfectly welcome to think whatever snide things you like about wycats, but it seems like kind of a douchey thing to do unless you were personally willing to provide Rails.app. oscardelben is. Perhaps it's to make a name for himself? Perhaps it's because he believes it should be done? Perhaps it's because he believes that wycats shouldn't be charging money for it? Who knows? It's awesome that he's doing it, and it makes him look like a big giant hero. He deserves every kudo that comes his way -- but that doesn't mean, for one second, that wycats shouldn't be able to accept money people are willing to give for a task he can perform very well. wycats is a proven developer, and doesn't need any reputation. (Not saying that oscar isn't -- I don't generally follow Rails development that closely. Apologies if he's the Linus Torvalds of Rails or something.) And at the risk of sounding like a tool, we should probably point out that oscardelben's project isn't finished, and is described, in the Readme as "Not ready". It might take him a few months to get it perfect.
- Cloven 15y ago5 months to develop a trivial shell script? Where could you possibly work that this could remotely be true?
- tptacek 15y agoNobody is suggesting it costs $44,000 to write a "trivial shell script".
- chaostheory 15y agoYehuda Katz isn't just some average 'someone' we don't know. He has a proven track record. He's a core member of the ROR team and he was lead on Merb. http://www.crunchbase.com/person/yehuda-katz http://www.crunchbase.com/person/yehuda-katz It's like saying, "Yeah Slash or Eddie Van Halen needs 40k to record a few tracks, but this kid from across the street will do it for free." To add to that, most open source contributors live in large metros that aren't cheap (in the West and East Asia). $25k does not even come close to covering a year in those areas.
- CWIZO 15y agoI don't have a problem with anyone making money if one can. Good for him I say (the opposite was not my intention in the original comment), he found a way to make some money while doing open source software.
- buu700 15y agoI don't think you understand. This isn't "a way to make some money while doing open source software"; if anything, he's probably losing money on this. The man is taking time off his job to do something he loves for a community which he's put a lot of time into, and that's something anyone should respect.
- kelnos 15y agoI can certainly respect that. But I can also respect (and maybe more) someone who does the same thing in his spare time, but for free.
- chaostheory 15y agoIn case you haven't already noticed, Yehuda has done plenty of that already.
- oscardelben 15y agoWith all due respect we're not talking about kids across the street here. We're all professional developers trying to contribute something. I'm perfectly fine with people making money especially those who have contributed so much, but is it possible to continue to contribute like we always did without looking like some kid across the street?