As long as these f*** i**s don't plausibly explain to me at what point we're supposed to stop with demographic and economic growth it's just a lot of hogwash, m

As long as these f*** i**s don't plausibly explain to me at what point we're supposed to stop with demographic and economic growth it's just a lot of hogwash, misguided at best. We're living on a finite planet with finite resources; our collective metabolism has been producing greenhouse gases at exponentially increasing levels for the past 200 years and shows no signs of slowing down, even though the population growth has somewhat slowed down. There's nothing, nothing in the books that tells us that even when populations should start to shrink globally, they won't go on to continue increasing their GHG outputs, for the simple reason that there are still sizable demographics who will want to attain a higher level of living i.e. a higher level of industrial products consumption. A massively decreasing global population is one of the key factors for a livable future. Another one is stopping to believe that electric cars are doing any good or that we'll ever be able to 'just' suck the CO2 out of the air and dispose of it underground. A third inevitable step must be a reduction of energy and product consumption on part of those who are responsible for major parts of the global figures; that would include many people in the West.