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Country pubs struggle to survive now that driving after a couple of pints is socially frowned up on. You've then got it relatively easy to get permission to con

by ta1243 3y ago

Country pubs struggle to survive now that driving after a couple of pints is socially frowned up on. You've then got it relatively easy to get permission to convert a pub to a house, so there's an incentive to kick out the landlord and make a fortune. That part is a consequence of the ridiculous real estate situation in the UK for the last 20 years.

kypro 3y ago
I think another aspect of this is that people don't just socialise with people in their immediate neighbourhood anymore too. My friends live all over the city, so why would we go to a local pub to hang out? It's just easier for us to meet in the city centre. In the past (before cars) people used to work and socialise far more locally.
ryandrake 3y ago
> Country pubs struggle to survive now that driving after a couple of pints is socially frowned up on. While drunk driving was and is a huge problem, and does cost lives, I do think the USA (and maybe UK, I don't live there) have massively over-corrected on the problem. The pendulum has swung so far, and cops enforce so aggressively, that you really can't chance even having a single beer while out with your car--even if you know it won't put you over the limit. And a DUI on your past record will stay with you basically forever. Depending on the US State, you can even get a DUI for many things that don't involve drinking or driving: - You're merely seated in a vehicle while intoxicated - You're sleeping in the car with your car keys nearby, and intoxicated - You're standing outside a vehicle while intoxicated, without any intention of driving - You're in possession of car keys near your car, while intoxicated - You're tired or lost (but haven't been drinking) and the officer thinks you are intoxicated No, I don't want to go back to the days when it was socially acceptable for people to get shitfaced and drive home because it's just around the corner. I had a classmate killed 2 years out of high school as a passenger of such an asshat. But I do think we've over-corrected to the point where I won't even dare to drive to dinner or a pub if I'm going to have a single beer there. I just drink at home now.

by ta1243 3y ago

kypro 3y ago

I think another aspect of this is that people don't just socialise with people in their immediate neighbourhood anymore too. My friends live all over the city, so why would we go to a local pub to hang out? It's just easier for us to meet in the city centre. In the past (before cars) people used to work and socialise far more locally.

ryandrake 3y ago

> Country pubs struggle to survive now that driving after a couple of pints is socially frowned up on. While drunk driving was and is a huge problem, and does cost lives, I do think the USA (and maybe UK, I don't live there) have massively over-corrected on the problem. The pendulum has swung so far, and cops enforce so aggressively, that you really can't chance even having a single beer while out with your car--even if you know it won't put you over the limit. And a DUI on your past record will stay with you basically forever. Depending on the US State, you can even get a DUI for many things that don't involve drinking or driving: - You're merely seated in a vehicle while intoxicated - You're sleeping in the car with your car keys nearby, and intoxicated - You're standing outside a vehicle while intoxicated, without any intention of driving - You're in possession of car keys near your car, while intoxicated - You're tired or lost (but haven't been drinking) and the officer thinks you are intoxicated No, I don't want to go back to the days when it was socially acceptable for people to get shitfaced and drive home because it's just around the corner. I had a classmate killed 2 years out of high school as a passenger of such an asshat. But I do think we've over-corrected to the point where I won't even dare to drive to dinner or a pub if I'm going to have a single beer there. I just drink at home now.