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Double NAT? Don't try this at home. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-it-bad https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-i

Double NAT? Don't try this at home. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-it-bad https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-i... You can't put guest router in bridge mode since then guest/IoT devices can't get IPs. You'd have to put "secure" router in bridge or AP-only mode. By that time, just get something that does all this for you without any hassle or configuration to learn, like Eero. Unless you want to be a WiFi geek, just get Eero and let it do WiFi right for your whole household.

josephcsible 3y ago
I've used double NAT before without any of the problems mentioned in that link.
fulafel 3y ago
Also breaks your IPv6.
y-c-o-m-b 3y ago
Hmmm I have an ASUS router connected to my CenturyLink modem/router combo because it gets better range and allows me to have better access controls/monitoring. I guess I'm using double NAT. I don't have those issues, but there's been times where after a month or so the internet performance drops considerably and I end up rebooting everything to get it back to normal.
askiiart 3y ago
> like Eero I would like to wholeheartedly un-recommend getting an Eero. Eero broke port forwarding in an update and didn't fix it for a while, with no ability to roll it back myself. You can't control your updates at all. Eero had functionality as basic as port forwarding break for days and just left their customers entirely in the dark about it. Now I just use my Eeros in bridge mode and have a router running OPNsense, which works great, despite just being a computer I found off the curb with a networking card slapped in it. I'm not the kind of Linux whose uncompromising priority is to be able to control every single corner of my computer, even at the expense of ease-of-use. I know that using proprietary software that's easier at the cost of fewer options is totally valid for most people. But if a product just breaks core functionality like that, with no way to fix it besides waiting for Amazon to get their shit together, then I could hardly recommend it to the most tech-illeterate people I know, much less to the HN crowd.

josephcsible 3y ago

I've used double NAT before without any of the problems mentioned in that link.

fulafel 3y ago

Also breaks your IPv6.

y-c-o-m-b 3y ago

Hmmm I have an ASUS router connected to my CenturyLink modem/router combo because it gets better range and allows me to have better access controls/monitoring. I guess I'm using double NAT. I don't have those issues, but there's been times where after a month or so the internet performance drops considerably and I end up rebooting everything to get it back to normal.

askiiart 3y ago

> like Eero I would like to wholeheartedly un-recommend getting an Eero. Eero broke port forwarding in an update and didn't fix it for a while, with no ability to roll it back myself. You can't control your updates at all. Eero had functionality as basic as port forwarding break for days and just left their customers entirely in the dark about it. Now I just use my Eeros in bridge mode and have a router running OPNsense, which works great, despite just being a computer I found off the curb with a networking card slapped in it. I'm not the kind of Linux whose uncompromising priority is to be able to control every single corner of my computer, even at the expense of ease-of-use. I know that using proprietary software that's easier at the cost of fewer options is totally valid for most people. But if a product just breaks core functionality like that, with no way to fix it besides waiting for Amazon to get their shit together, then I could hardly recommend it to the most tech-illeterate people I know, much less to the HN crowd.