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So could catagorization of local stone based on acoustic and visual indicators, combined with random sampling and strength testing provide the assurance needed
by diroussel 3y ago
So could catagorization of local stone based on acoustic and visual indicators, combined with random sampling and strength testing provide the assurance needed that a wall will have the required structural properties?
- crotchfire 3y agoThe point is that the concrete manufacturers pulverize and homogenize the aggregate. This makes random sampling acceptable. If you haven't pulverized and mixed the inputs, a random sample is merely a random sample. It isn't meaningful unless it comes from a high-entropy source.
- diroussel 3y agoSo are you saying we couldn’t estimate the structural properties of autonomous built dry walls from local stone? Or that the error bars would be unacceptably large? Or just that this approach would only work with certain stone in certain locations?
- SiempreViernes 3y agoI think the problem is more that you cannot at all guarantee a specific performance of the structure ahead of time, because you can't know what the properties of the local rocks will be before you are on site and have measured them all.
- londons_explore 3y agoGeotechnical engineering is all about taking samples and using wide enough safety margins. And in the vast majority of cases, the end result is a building that doesn't fall down. Sure, you might have been really unlucky that all your test samples of soil and rock were really strong granite, but the exact spot you put the main structural pile, unknown to you, was all mud and silt... But the chances are so vanishingly unlikely we accept it.
- berkes 3y agoDoesn't that apply to wood too? Yet we use wood to build houses almost everywhere.
- SiempreViernes 3y agoPeople rarely build entirely using found wood on site, at the very least each tree to be used gets selected before you bother felling it. But the overwhelmingly most common use of wood is in the form of processed product: using quality controlled lumber of standardised size.
- _tom_ 3y agoThe interesting thing here is you can feasibly measure them all. Not ahead of time, but as you build.
- SiempreViernes 3y agoSure, but then it's somewhat up to luck precisely what properties you get. This variation might me manageable if you design enough redundancy into the design, but by necessity you will need more margins than if you used a more controlled material.