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"being unable to close his big mouth and engage brain." He has values, and he values those over money.

3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
Amusing, you're one of the few remaining people who still buy this. Watch how his values go over the next few weeks. For example, his PR has arranged a trip to the Gaza / Israel border next week, where he'll meet and shake hands with Benjamin Netanyahu, so then he can say "see? I love Jews, please big ad dollars, come back". This was not a trip arranged a month ahead, the way you normally do this. No, this was hastily arranged in the aftermath of the big ad 𝕏-odus from a week ago. During the interview you're citing, I'm sure Elon believed he "values his values" over money. Totally. But then when Twitter topples down, and threatens to drag with it also Tesla and specifically his ownership of Tesla stock (his Tesla debt collateral is TSLA), then it gets "real". And suddenly he goes quiet, and forgets his values. This keeps happening, and he never learns apparently. Let me put this in simpler meme terms, the way he would enjoy: - Elon: "I'll say what I want to say, and if this results in losing money, so be it!" - Big advertisers: *Pull out.* - Elon: Wait. Not like this.
- explain 3y ago
  > so then he can say "see? I love Jews, please big ad dollars, come back" He may be playing nice to bring the ads back, sure (and no doubt he wants X generating a lot of revenue). But in your example what he's not doing is taking away anyone's freedom of speech in order to get the ad dollars back. He is trying to bring back the ads without eroding freedom of speech. If what he does is start banning users who say anti-Semitic things to bring back the ad revenue, then you will be right.
  - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
    Oh, so when he bans journalists for saying "he banned Elonjet", or reporting on Tesla whistleblowers... that's not banning free speech. When he banned Instagram and Mastodon links, when he banned (basically blocked from the timeline, blocked likes and replies) the Substack account... that's not banning free speech. It's only banning free speech when he bans anti-Semites. How curious.
    - phpisthebest 3y ago
      Wait I thought he was an anti-Semite that is why everyone hates him and why the advertisers left Now we have to hate him because he is banning anti-Semites I am soo confused, it is almost like narrative changes based on the time of day and it really has nothing to with Elon at all, but about control of narrative
  - jrflowers 3y ago
    > He has values, and he values those over money. > He may be playing nice to bring the ads back, sure (and no doubt he wants X generating a lot of revenue). I love the consistency of these points. He either values principles or maybe money, which are interchangeable, and whatever one of those I’ve just thought of is better than the other.
  - Pat_Murph 3y ago
    With all the people he banned you still believe he actually cares about free speech? Musk promise not to anyone not even the account the posted 5h4 location of his plane then he went and banned the account. And then went on a banning soirée of journaliste who are critical of him. Musk is only for speech that isnt critical of him. If it is then he doenst hesitate censor them. If you actually believe thst he's working to protect free speech. You are extremely ignorant of the facts and reality. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-journalist-suspend-1.6688110 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-journalist-suspend-...
gloryjulio 3y ago
What value? Free speech? But wait, he actually bans/shadow bans a lot of stuff. So the value of hypocrisy?
Pat_Murph 3y ago
Lol Musk has values. Good one. You are joking right?

Amusing, you're one of the few remaining people who still buy this. Watch how his values go over the next few weeks. For example, his PR has arranged a trip to the Gaza / Israel border next week, where he'll meet and shake hands with Benjamin Netanyahu, so then he can say "see? I love Jews, please big ad dollars, come back". This was not a trip arranged a month ahead, the way you normally do this. No, this was hastily arranged in the aftermath of the big ad 𝕏-odus from a week ago. During the interview you're citing, I'm sure Elon believed he "values his values" over money. Totally. But then when Twitter topples down, and threatens to drag with it also Tesla and specifically his ownership of Tesla stock (his Tesla debt collateral is TSLA), then it gets "real". And suddenly he goes quiet, and forgets his values. This keeps happening, and he never learns apparently. Let me put this in simpler meme terms, the way he would enjoy: - Elon: "I'll say what I want to say, and if this results in losing money, so be it!" - Big advertisers: *Pull out.* - Elon: Wait. Not like this.

explain 3y ago
> so then he can say "see? I love Jews, please big ad dollars, come back" He may be playing nice to bring the ads back, sure (and no doubt he wants X generating a lot of revenue). But in your example what he's not doing is taking away anyone's freedom of speech in order to get the ad dollars back. He is trying to bring back the ads without eroding freedom of speech. If what he does is start banning users who say anti-Semitic things to bring back the ad revenue, then you will be right.
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
  Oh, so when he bans journalists for saying "he banned Elonjet", or reporting on Tesla whistleblowers... that's not banning free speech. When he banned Instagram and Mastodon links, when he banned (basically blocked from the timeline, blocked likes and replies) the Substack account... that's not banning free speech. It's only banning free speech when he bans anti-Semites. How curious.
  - phpisthebest 3y ago
    Wait I thought he was an anti-Semite that is why everyone hates him and why the advertisers left Now we have to hate him because he is banning anti-Semites I am soo confused, it is almost like narrative changes based on the time of day and it really has nothing to with Elon at all, but about control of narrative
- jrflowers 3y ago
  > He has values, and he values those over money. > He may be playing nice to bring the ads back, sure (and no doubt he wants X generating a lot of revenue). I love the consistency of these points. He either values principles or maybe money, which are interchangeable, and whatever one of those I’ve just thought of is better than the other.
- Pat_Murph 3y ago
  With all the people he banned you still believe he actually cares about free speech? Musk promise not to anyone not even the account the posted 5h4 location of his plane then he went and banned the account. And then went on a banning soirée of journaliste who are critical of him. Musk is only for speech that isnt critical of him. If it is then he doenst hesitate censor them. If you actually believe thst he's working to protect free speech. You are extremely ignorant of the facts and reality. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-journalist-suspend-1.6688110 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-journalist-suspend-...

gloryjulio 3y ago

What value? Free speech? But wait, he actually bans/shadow bans a lot of stuff. So the value of hypocrisy?

Pat_Murph 3y ago

Lol Musk has values. Good one. You are joking right?