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The Germans among you will correct me, but "‘a new Gründerzeit’ (the rampant period of German urban construction in the late nineteenth century)" seems to me t

by cafard 3y ago

The Germans among you will correct me, but "‘a new Gründerzeit’ (the rampant period of German urban construction in the late nineteenth century)" seems to me to misstate what the "Gründerzeit" was all about: I understand it to have been a period during which many companies were founded on speculative bases, and stocks run up until realism, and a collapse, set in.

dse1982 3y ago
Am german, can confirm you are right. Not much to correct here :)
notnaut 3y ago
sounds like there’s an interesting compare and contrast to be made with the US at around the same time?
- hodgesrm 3y ago
  Indeed, both US and Germany industrialized around the same time.
odiroot 3y ago
I always thought it was related to Industrial Revolution coming to Germany. There was even iron works and locomotive factory in central Berlin during that time. The area was aptly nicknamed "Feuerland". A bit further north there was an extremely densely populated residential neighbourhood. Factory workers were living there in terrible conditions. One building (5 floors) had over a thousand tenants. Usually there was only one bathroom for the whole floor. And there was no hot water. Crime and pollution was a huge problem. The architecture was great, at least compared to post-war times, but life in the city was quite crap.
hodgesrm 3y ago
According to Wikipedia [0] it has at least three meanings: 1.) The period 1871-1873 of rapid economic growth in the German empire following the peace treaty that ended the war of 1870. It ended with a stock market crash (aka Gründerkrach). 2.) More generally the period of broad industrialization from 1870 to 1914. 3.) Somewhat confusingly for architecture it's applied to buildings of the late 1800s through about 1900. Personally I always understood it as #2 and #3. My in-laws lived for many years in Kassel, which has a lot of houses from that era in the upper part of town around Wilhelmshöhe. [0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnderzeit https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnderzeit

by cafard 3y ago

dse1982 3y ago

Am german, can confirm you are right. Not much to correct here :)

notnaut 3y ago

sounds like there’s an interesting compare and contrast to be made with the US at around the same time?

hodgesrm 3y ago
Indeed, both US and Germany industrialized around the same time.

odiroot 3y ago

I always thought it was related to Industrial Revolution coming to Germany. There was even iron works and locomotive factory in central Berlin during that time. The area was aptly nicknamed "Feuerland". A bit further north there was an extremely densely populated residential neighbourhood. Factory workers were living there in terrible conditions. One building (5 floors) had over a thousand tenants. Usually there was only one bathroom for the whole floor. And there was no hot water. Crime and pollution was a huge problem. The architecture was great, at least compared to post-war times, but life in the city was quite crap.

hodgesrm 3y ago

According to Wikipedia [0] it has at least three meanings: 1.) The period 1871-1873 of rapid economic growth in the German empire following the peace treaty that ended the war of 1870. It ended with a stock market crash (aka Gründerkrach). 2.) More generally the period of broad industrialization from 1870 to 1914. 3.) Somewhat confusingly for architecture it's applied to buildings of the late 1800s through about 1900. Personally I always understood it as #2 and #3. My in-laws lived for many years in Kassel, which has a lot of houses from that era in the upper part of town around Wilhelmshöhe. [0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnderzeit https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCnderzeit